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Fung King Awesome Interviews

Thu, 9/2 10:04AM • 1:03:16

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SPEAKERS

Mickey Gordon, Mallory Gordon, Shellboy, Brandon – Negril Charters, Cuckoldress Venus, Shelly Ann Fung-King

 

Mallory Gordon  00:02

You’re listening to the casual swinger podcast as your hosts, we need to warn you that the material you’re about to hear may be sexual or explicit in nature. This podcast is intended for an adult audience. Now, we don’t expect you to act like adults. What’s the fun in that?

 

Mickey Gordon  00:16

We’re a married couple living in Florida with over 13 years of experience in the lifestyle and we take almost nothing seriously. Casual swingers a variety show meaning we’ll cover everything from music to events, travel, and even the occasional hilarious screw up. Our show is about entertainment. We’re not licensed professionals had anything and our stories, commentary and guidance should not be confused with the opinions of a licensed professional.

 

Mallory Gordon  00:41

Now that you know, let’s take those pants off and get comfy.

 

Mickey Gordon  00:49

everybody welcome to a special episode of casual swinger. My name is Mickey. And I’m Mallory. So this is a little weird, right? This is an out of sync out of cadence. Like we have all these interviews that I did was in Jamaica, and we were like, what do we do with them?

 

Mallory Gordon  01:04

I wouldn’t call it weird, but it’s exciting. I think it’s great that we’re getting this together for the listeners because especially people who have been to Jamaica like for example, Brandon in Shell boy, right? If you’ve been to hedonism, you’ll know those guys because Brandon and his team and his company runs the cat cruises and shell boy is just kind of a staple on the beach.

 

Mickey Gordon  01:27

You know if you know shell boy, you’ve know shell boy, right? So and I mean, it was a short little interview with Shell boy, I spent a little more time with Brandon and of course, I spent a good bit of time and a good bit of this episode. is Shelly anfang. King.

 

Mallory Gordon  01:41

Yeah, she and she’s the man behind the curtain, right. She’s the CEO

 

Mickey Gordon  01:45

of club VIP, which covers club mo Bay and club Kingston at the two major airports in Jamaica. So what club mobi is, is a specialized priority experience for arrival and departure from Jamaica. Right. It’s its departure lounges, its arrival lounges. It’s a it’s a expedited path through customs.

 

Mallory Gordon  02:12

Yeah, switch easy, which is really important, because a lot of the feedback we’ve been getting, and your feedback was as well that it was almost crucial to in front, right, especially on the way in because you just you get bumped to the front of the line.

 

Mickey Gordon  02:25

Yeah, so the biggest thing I think VIP club VIP does and again, that’s the majority of what you’re going to get in this episode is that interview with Shelley and Fung King, which is the best fucking last name ever.

 

Mallory Gordon  02:37

Rick Davies their last name.

 

Mickey Gordon  02:39

She even said it in the beginning of the interview, she said their interview it was the it was the funking awesome wedding. So she was so much fun to hang out with adorable. I love all the things that they do for their employees. You guys got to listen to this and hear just how they managed to keep all 480 employees during these furloughed times. Yeah, the things they did, and I don’t even remember if we got into all of it, because we showed each other so many videos, they made tic Tock videos and stuff and like hung out together. Oh,

 

Mallory Gordon  03:08

it’s so cool. Cuz I mean, I’m not gonna lie. That’s something I started doing for my team at work. And granted, I had a learning curve, they’re a really hard learning curve. So I thought that was really special that they went to those lengths to stay engaged and touch and informed with each other.

 

Mickey Gordon  03:26

Yeah. And they shared recipes and like competed, like who could have the best presentation and the best looking recipe for different and they had, you know, okay, here’s the, here’s the stuff you can use and make a recipe, make something and share it with everybody. Like they did several things, to keep their employees engaged. I absolutely loved interviewing with her. As a matter of fact, we’re gonna have her back on the show. They’ve got some new amenities coming for club obey. So when that happens, she’s going to reach out to me, we’re going to get her on the show proper.

 

Mallory Gordon  03:53

Yeah, I have to say they’ve done a really good job. I can’t, I can’t identify one person that had a Moby shirt or name tag on that wasn’t pleasant, knowledgeable, helpful. courteous, like, they either they’re picking the most exceptional people or their training program is exceptional or a combination of both. So the fact that they did everything they could to keep these people on makes sense, but it’s also very noteworthy.

 

Mickey Gordon  04:23

Well, one of the things that Shelly said during the interview that really stood out to me is that her opinion of club VIP is that they’re the first impression you get a Jamaica. Oh, that’s Yeah. So it’s super important to them to make sure that that impression is a good one because they want you to come back. And it was just it was so neat to be able to sit down and talk to her and really get an idea of what the goals are of club VIP. And of course after that, I had to sit down with Brandon from from island charters limited. And Brandon is such a dynamic personality and he has he really has such a cool perspective because he’s old white guy that was raised in Jamaica,

 

Mallory Gordon  05:02

literally, I’ll never forget the first time I met him. It was our first trip to Jamaica. We decided to go on the cat cruise and he opened his mouth. And I was like, Huh, I have water me. It was just a little surreal, because you just didn’t expect that.

 

Mickey Gordon  05:16

No. And he says he gets a lot. He was such a good sport with me asking him questions about it. And I think I asked him if you off the record, too, but it just it was so like, Okay, I got to know how much like shit Did you catch growing up? Did you get bullied? And you know, he wasn’t like, no, he said it was just, he was just another guy is just another kid. Not amazing. It was so neat to hear, you know, a lot of the stuff that we deal with here in the United States, and racially and culturally, and each stinney Diem occurred to them. They’re like, no. And that was awesome. I

 

Mallory Gordon  05:49

nobody. Yeah, no one taught them to hate. So that’s just fantastic. Another little tidbit about Brandon is Do you remember when we I was I was terrified of deep water. So it was a big deal for me to jump in and snorkel. And then he kept diving down and he got me this T or chin smells?

 

Mickey Gordon  06:05

Yeah, they love So what else was down? a great view of your beef from the bottom? Right. So he was going down and getting for me, checking you out? Oh,

 

Mallory Gordon  06:19

no, don’t ruin it for me because I thought it was the sweetest thing ever. And then they throw the three the two of them broke in my suitcase. I was really really bummed about it. But I

 

Mickey Gordon  06:29

was happy to get them for you.

 

Mallory Gordon  06:30

Yeah, it might had I’ll never forget that he probably doesn’t remember because he gets to see naked girls all the time. But

 

Mickey Gordon  06:36

well, you know, the funny thing is, he is an amazing boat captain like that dude is legit. You remember the last cat cruise, we had the big boat and he drove it?

 

Mallory Gordon  06:45

He did. And he got us and I mean by it and excuse my language by a container. Like he like the way he can turn and navigate that boat is just,

 

Mickey Gordon  06:53

it’s ridiculous. Like he drove like it was a Honda Civic. And it was absolutely insane watching that dude, drive that boat. And you’re taking us up to Rick’s because you know when you’re with when you’re on a boat with us and the rascals, we do some stupid shit.

 

Mallory Gordon  07:08

We do. We do. And especially in the main trip, and maybe the November trip, there’s a highly likelihood of afternoon storms. Yeah. And he’ll find a way to get around them. And not just around the storms. But around the rougher water to Yeah, I have never been on a boat one Brandon has been driving that it was, you know, a little scary. Or if you’re uncomfortable.

 

Mickey Gordon  07:35

I don’t think he does it. But anymore. He doesn’t know he’s the director of operations, right? The whole thing. So he doesn’t Captain the boats anymore. But he said that we can request them and he will drive for us. That’d be amazing. Which is pretty cool. And then last but not least, of course, we had shell boy in here. So these are really just a collection of interviews that I did as part of research for the story for as and magazine as part of research for episode one for and it ended up being episode one into for this new season. Yeah. And we just want you to get a picture of what it’s like to go to Jamaica and meet these people and be a part of their lives.

 

Mallory Gordon  08:10

Yeah. And I think this is maybe like a 10th of the content that you brought home. There’s just so much but I think as a companion piece. This is this is worth a listen. It’s not our typical episode, but it’s still worth a listen.

 

Mickey Gordon  08:22

Yeah, it’s more just kind of getting a window into the world of what COVID did to Jamaica and how people are getting by we still had a great conversation with Lindley grant, Mr. reasonable that I just the audio just was too bad. I just couldn’t

 

Mallory Gordon  08:35

Yeah, it was that was a little rough. We may blow the speakers out of people’s cars with the wind to do that. So can I just tell you my two takeaways? Yeah, I’m listening to some of these. So the first one is, again, and I think I said this last episode. They don’t focus on the neck negative. It’s a really beautiful thing. They understand things happen. They understand, you know, the world has changed a little bit. But they always put a silver lining on I always refer to being grateful and blessed and moving in the right direction, even though maybe it’s not okay right now or it wasn’t then that it’s always positive. And that’s really admirable. I think as human beings, it’s easy for us to get stuck in a rut and look around and feel like the hole we’re in is getting deeper and we focus on that we don’t focus on the ray of light that’s coming through the top and they do an excellent job at that.

 

Mickey Gordon  09:27

They very much do you know, when I was talking to shell voice, I happened to be down by the beach and there was nobody around. I mean, there were construction crews you could hear a lot of construction going on which is pretty rare on Seven Mile Beach to be able to hear that much construction but sandals was building these jetties to try and prevent the loss of sand due to erosion which all ends up on heaters beat so heater doesn’t really mind. But you know, it’s we were the only people out there and Shelby saw me and he was so excited. He almost lost. He walks around with a soccer ball on his had a lot of times, and he almost lost his soccer ball running over to say hi.

 

Mallory Gordon  10:04

I’ve never seen him drop that thing.

 

Mickey Gordon  10:05

I know, he knew. He didn’t, but he definitely wasn’t gonna say Yeah. And and he was just like, you know, Where is everyone? Where is everybody? And we started talking and and he told me how you know that he was he was fishing and climbing trees and getting fruit to eat and because there was no money, none. Then he said, but that didn’t bother him as much as not seeing his friends.

 

Mallory Gordon  10:29

Yeah. See? Ya see what I mean? I think they’re better people than we are they really deep down. Yeah, they’re they’re generally better people. And I love them for that. I really do. They make me want to be a better person, which sounds really canned and cheesy, but it’s true.

 

Mickey Gordon  10:45

Yeah, I think the weirdest part for me though, was going to heat out and not really having sex come to mind. At all. It was strange. It was really strange. It was like I was breaking a law. I was like, Can I just like, Can you just send me some Ruby pictures?

 

Mallory Gordon  11:01

I know and I failed you I never did since I suck his wife. Anyway. The second thing that I noticed listening to these interviews and you just referred to Shelley in his she says, We are the first people you meet. And we want you to have a good impression when you come to Jamaica. Jamaicans are really, really good at nonverbal communication. Very, very, they’re good at expressing it and they’re very good at reading it.

 

Mickey Gordon  11:29

Yeah. You know, you pissed the Jamaican Oh,

 

Mallory Gordon  11:32

you don’t have to know there are no words exchange,

 

Mickey Gordon  11:36

especially a Jamaican woman but if you agree,

 

Mallory Gordon  11:40

but also like the pleasantry and like if they read something on you, they’ll love you. Okay, today like it, they’re just really, really good at it, which shows me that as a culture, they’re very empathetic. Again, we can learn a lot from them.

 

Mickey Gordon  11:56

It doesn’t suck. It really doesn’t. It was, gosh, let’s see, I was down by the bar cuz I was I was taking some video down by the bar. And one of our favorite bartenders was down there. And I just kind of had a look of concentration on my face and she came over and she threw her arm around my shoulder. And she says, I’m not sure who needs to hug more. You were me, so I just figured out so that was my girlfriend.

 

Mallory Gordon  12:22

That’s okay. You can have as many as you want.

 

Mickey Gordon  12:26

I’m gonna remember you said that because you said it. Alright guys, we’ll look we’re going to get into this without further ado, this first interview is with Shelly and Fung King. She is the CEO of club VIP. That’s club mo Bay and club Kingston. She’s going to talk to you a little bit about what those guys do and how they do it and how they got through the COVID experience. And we’ll be back right afterwards to set up the interview with Brandon from island charters. Folks, you’ve been listening to casual swinger.

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  13:13

Alright, so my name is Shelly and phone King. Awesome. Everybody teases me about my last name. Shelly Ann Fung-King. Yeah, actually, when I did my wedding, it’s funny to say that we had a boat ride and the tagline was a fucking awesome cruise. That’s so cool. We got a kick out of it.

 

Mickey Gordon  13:35

Amazing. How long have you worked with?

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  13:38

I started in 2013. I started in sales.

 

Mickey Gordon  13:43

Really? Yeah, you’re gonna stick with this, then?

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  13:45

Pretty much. It’s a good it’s a good company to work for prior to that I was at sandals for 17 years.

 

Mickey Gordon  13:53

Really? Yeah. What do you do now hurt? Okay, I’m the CEO. You’re the CEO of the movement. So como Bay provides an amazing experience for visitors to Montego Bay, and really all Jamaica because it’s a leaping off point for the rest of Jamaica for a lot of the visitors that are in the tourism space. Right. So what is what’s the mission for COVID?

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  14:12

Well, we want to make sure that the airport experience is seamless and flawless. Obviously, it’s the first impression of everybody coming to the island. And we’re perfectly positioned at the gateway to paradise, both in Kingston, and writing in Montego Bay. So we want to make sure that people are comfortable, they’re relaxed, very engaged, you know, especially for first time travelers never been to the island. They want someone to help them to navigate through all the processes, so it’s easier for them. And that’s what we’re about. We want to make sure that people know that it’s all about convenience. It’s all about relaxation and comfort. You know,

 

Mickey Gordon  14:45

it’s really cool.

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  14:46

So we’re the first and last impression of the island.

 

Mickey Gordon  14:49

Thank you so much. I’m wonderful. I’m very happy to be here. Thank you very much. Thank you. Sure. When we talked about COVID COVID was a huge hit to the world. But to Jamaica, Jamaica’s tourism industry is 30% of their GDP correct. And a massive massive hit unemployment rate. When Pete when tourism went away, people lost their jobs. How hard did that hit? mauvais?

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  15:18

Well, Moby got he, just like the rest of the world was incredible. You can think of you’re mad. Yeah. Moby God, hey, just like the rest of the world, as is expected. Like you rightfully said, people are unemployed, laid off, no furloughed, that kind of thing. So when you think of that, and because of all the linkages with tourism, it also affected other areas, like farmers are affected local craft shops were affected all the attractions, obviously, even in the case of coma, they were closed from March. And we just opened when the borders reopened. And even when we reopen, we are seeing a lot less persons coming in. Because they’re a little bit hesitant now they want people like yourselves, come and experience it and talk about it.

 

Mickey Gordon  15:58

Right? Yeah, that’s exactly what we intend to do,

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  16:00

which is a great thing to do, honestly, really, because people want to know that they’re safe. And that’s what we’re about No, which is why the testing and everything that you went through today is for that purpose. We want people to know that look. COVID is something that we may have to live with for a while. And because we may have to live with it for a while we have to coexist. And how can we do this and show people show the world that is still fun. I mean, even I’m in a mask, you can tell that we’re engaged, we’re smiling. You know, you can feel the energy. And that’s the good thing about Jamaican people. We’re resilient. One. And two, we’re passionate. So I mean, you can feel the level of passion that’s oozing through our skin from smiling our eyes. Yeah, exactly.

 

Mickey Gordon  16:41

Yep. To tell me a little bit about the training, because when you lose that many employees, they don’t all come back. Right. Maybe some of them find other jobs. I mean, my representative was sensational. And Russia was unbelievable. Have you had any trouble bringing employees back? Did you lose any employees?

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  16:58

We have 480 employees. And I will tell you this, when we closed our doors, we were still offering them a stipend monthly stipend separate from what the government was doing for those who are qualified. And that’s because we wanted to let them know that we care. So they were getting that and every single month we gave our team members care packages. every single Wednesday, we would do a video that we the management would do and send out to the team to keep them engaged. We had competitions going where they could earn cash, prizes and prizes to go shopping. We had video with talent pieces. Absolutely. We were dancing or singing or DJ competitions we did every single week at nine o’clock in the morning, something goes out. We also have what we call worship on Wednesdays. And I’m telling you all of this because I want you to know that the team members are so engaged, that when we were realizing that the situation remains fluid, the numbers, we’re not looking at the way we wanted to just yet because the hotels were not open. We found that the folks said, you have an option you can we can expand, you can choose to come back to work. Some people may want to choose to be made redundant, that kind of thing. Every single person has said that they’re coming back so much that we started to do online training. We’ve been doing reorientation, which is mandatory, every single team member has to do reorientation. So it’s not just about the new protocols. It’s also about the service levels, policies that now more than ever, people that are coming to expect to get exceptional service, because it’s their hard earned money. This is something didn’t have to do especially now when they could be staying at home and doing road trips. Because we want them to come to Jamaica, the service level the quality service has to go. And that’s exactly what we’re keying in on Keenan. And all our team members have gotten that training. And at the end of every training session, they complete a test. If they don’t get a certain percentage, they’re not able to come back to work until they get the percentage grade that we want. Wow. So most of it is on customer service as well. 180 employees,

 

Mickey Gordon  19:05

you guys didn’t lose the same. Not one that is Herta, that is amazing. And so these employees that obviously they provide a premium service, a couple of days of premium service yesterday, do you find that struggled to articulate the value or do you guys sell out? I mean before, that’s before good.

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  19:26

There are three it’s like everything else, there’s a season, right? And our business season is right after Thanksgiving. So from Thanksgiving all the way through to the same meal. We’re pretty sold out very often, especially on the weekends. Because what we’re finding is that all the plans are coming basically at the same time and they see the value in our service and they know what it’s like, you know, so from that standpoint, pre COVID we had no problem keeping our lounges full. Now we don’t oversell which some people may have be of the opinion. We do not lose capacity.

 

Mickey Gordon  20:01

Because it’s good to hear.

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  20:02

We’ve never done that. I know some hotels may do that strategy. Because if people cancel or no shows, and and we understand why. But we go with a particular carrying capacity and we stick with them.

 

Mickey Gordon  20:16

So when we talk about club obey, and one Kotor, specifically, the lounges, you know, it’s I’m are you doing anything special in the lounges for social distancing? I mean, I know that I had put on hand sanitizer for the 19th time coming through that door. Better safe than sorry. I have my hands hadn’t been this clean and 44 years, we want to make sure you’re pure. So what sort of precautions Have you taken in terms of training staff in terms of sanitizing areas, and in terms of social distancing?

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  20:50

Alright, let’s start on the staff and every team member before they come into work? Well, first of all, they used to wear their uniforms to work. Now they don’t, they have to put their uniforms on, or they’re here. So that we know that it’s especially for people who have to go on public transportation. So there’s that component of it, every team member is temperature checked, we record it. So we are monitoring it, we also ensure that they’re to like you are sanitized. Once they get to the workstation, their tools, exactly what it is that they need to do, they understand that there’s a lot more in terms of the cleanliness aspects of it, we have to focus on that. One, and we’ve also done as well as we put our team members intentionally on rotation. And the reason we do that is we want, we know that there’s exposure, right? And we want to make sure that our team members are safe. So put two weeks on to stuff. So during that two weeks of ride, they’re getting rested. And in the event that they caught something at least, you know, if not infecting the entire operation

 

Mickey Gordon  21:52

makes a lot of sense, I actually would never have thought of that to rotate them out just aiming to do two week intervals, kind of match the gestation intervals.

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  22:00

Exactly. And that’s what we’re doing. So we do that with our team members. Plus, we’re also giving them an opportunity for everybody to get some work, you know, because obviously, we can’t bring up 180 right away, we have to go based on the numbers, six flights a day, right? Exactly. Some cases seven, some five, but average about six flights is what we’re seeing now. So there’s that and then once the guests from the guest standpoint, when they convert will be temperature checks. We also have sanitizing for them as well. Every single guest wants to get out of a chair. We sanitize it before we put the next one in. In terms of our buffet, everybody knows that we always have self serve buffet now it’s a health buffet assisted buffet. So we have a buffet attendant who will provide the pre packaged items, all they have to do is identify what exactly they want. And then the person will serve it to them. This is hard to talk to this.

 

Mickey Gordon  22:52

I’m hearing impaired so I usually read lips. Really I relived myself. it’s maddening. It’s driving me crazy. That drives me absolutely crazy. And that’s why I put the crazy face on. But you know, it’s for some of the people out here, for example, that what’s your Wi Fi shields and math? I couldn’t read them all the first girl was sauceboat. And she was getting frustrated with me because I wasn’t answering her. I’m like I didn’t know you were talking I really thought,

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  23:19

well, it’ll get better over a period of time. I think it’s just new for everybody. So it will pick up. But there’s that as well

 

Mickey Gordon  23:26

as a premium service millbay may have some visibility into what’s coming after July 1. Because I think a lot of people are curious. I mean, right now, this is untenable for the normal volume that Jamaica is used to with passengers coming in and going to hotels. So what do you what do you think is going to happen? I mean, if you don’t have any visibility, do you have any opinions on how this process is going to get streamlined for 30 to 50? flights a day versus six?

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  23:56

Well, here’s what I do know, when we started on day one, the process has immensely improved by day two. I mean, you’re learning from our mistakes as we go. Obviously, there’s teething pains as we go along. Which is why the government gave it a two week trial period after this, then they’re obviously going to decide what’s going to come next. Now what I do believe is going to happen, eventually, we will not be able to do the test necessarily at the airport. It may be a case and like I said it’s very fluid. This is just an opinion, it may not very well pan out. But I do believe that maybe the answer is probably going to be pretesting. So they get the clearance prior to coming here. So they don’t have to do this do it. They know that once they get on Island,

 

Mickey Gordon  24:38

it’s vacation time, which would be wonderful. So it used to be once you got here you were disconnected from the planet. Right? You were just Jamaican.

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  24:47

So that’s what I’m thinking obviously come July I imagine that all the airlines are going to start picking up because of the volume is so low, we could afford to do what we’re doing now. And we can also use this opportunity to get better which is King, everybody knows data is king. from it, we can just, you know, basically look and see how many persons are coming the percentage what threatening, you know, areas for the nation. And then you decide from that. But so far, I think it’s being managed very well, considering everything else that’s happening,

 

Mickey Gordon  25:17

I think very well, I was interesting. Because I had club obey, it was a lot less painful. I can say that definitively.

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  25:27

Right, but I will share as well. And I think also the government recognizes the value that we add from a customer service standpoint, we now have about 20 team members that works in conjunction with the Jamaica Defence Force, as well, as the Minister of Health, you will see even along the touchpoints, there was someone from her moment, I noticed that even if you’re not in a meet, so that every single guest in the island will get a little experience of it, because we understand that we are an extension of your person’s vacation. And that’s what we are. So we want them to see the smiling faces, even if they can’t see the lips, we can see the eyes, we can feel the personalities, you know, and that’s what we want. You don’t want to feel like it’s too clinical, or, you know, to be afraid, we’re here to remind everybody every step of the way that look, this is a necessary thing that has to be done. And it’s going to be fun.

 

Mickey Gordon  26:18

I believe, personally, that the club mo Bay is a great way to kind of get over what COVID brings, right? Because once you get into club obey you, it’s a lot more like rent, it’s you get that hospitality and passion. Maybe you don’t get waiting for some holidays, you know, even if you do take them but just standing outside waiting. This is a very interesting experience. Do you think that people that do go through all of this and maybe are a little turned off by it? Because it is it’s different? Do you think that movie helps restore some of that?

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  26:50

I think we do help to restore it because of like you said, it’s almost like chairs, everybody knows your name, you feel great. When you walk off that plane, we’re identifying you by name. People love their name, they want to feel special, right? Is that element of law, knowing that someone is there to cater to your every name, walking you through navigating you through the whole process to alleviate some of that concern. And then when you come to our lounges, you can have a couple of red stripe, you can have a couple of room funds to get you. Exactly feeling really good. You know what I mean? And like you said, it’s a more pleasurable way. You can be sitting in the sweltering sun, though I know you’re here for the sun, but you need to transition as well. So you can check your emails, check in with your family, tell everybody because we have complimentary Wi Fi that, hey, I’m safe and sound and ready to go start my vacation.

 

Mickey Gordon  27:40

You moved on to the next minute, who is going to make which was the Wi Fi in these facilities? Do you guys go out of your way to put a better Wi Fi experience in because people are coming to the island? They’re trying to contact family and say yes. And then when they go to leave, they want to reach out and say, Hey, I’m back with the world now. Right?

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  27:57

And not only that, we provide complimentary calls for the US, Canada and UK for landlines. Yep, so if persons be left their phone for whatever reason, and they want to tell somebody that they’re okay, they have that option as well. Plus, they can come to our lounges and have a couple of snacks before their bus ride, depending on what part of the island and the case on the grill. That’s an hour and 15 minutes. You know what I mean? Used to be a lot longer, right? But thank goodness, but it’s a beautiful scenic ride. But it’s great to know that you’re filled before going there. You have a couple of drinks, you have a sandwich here and there. And you’re good.

 

Mickey Gordon  28:30

So what’s next? What do you got here? You guys, I mean, obviously Kingston, and obey are the two biggest airport. But are there amenities you’re thinking about adding or adding in? Are

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  28:40

there some things that we’re toying with the idea, like hotels, they have Butler service suites, that kind of thing. We were once thinking and still thinking of it, probably very soon, we’ll be able to do this large like a VIP section, like a true VIP experience. Where they can get like bustle surveys, that kind of thing. We may eventually, the managers wine list for portfolios are specific to certain brands of alcohol that we can have. So we’re looking at things like that, obviously, we want to extend out to other parts of Jamaica as well. And we’re looking at that as well. So we’re in negotiations, we’ve been in contact with about 13 different airports that are interested. But we believe in perfecting one first before going to the next. So it’s more like a plug and play thereafter.

 

Mickey Gordon  29:31

Like Yeah, so if you could tell someone who’s on the fence, coming back, did you make it back to move a thing? What would it be?

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  29:41

I would say, take the risk. Because guess what? You only live once. Right? And if you’re going to allow fear to prevent you from doing what you know you want to do, just be safe, be vigilant. Don’t take it for granted. Don’t take it lightly. Don’t Think that you’re above everybody else, and you can catch it because there are people who actually think that they cannot catch it. Really? Absolutely. You know, you have to be vigilant, but I would say take the risk, it’s worth it. It’s worth it’s a beautiful country, it’s beautiful people, why would you deprive yourself of the right to see these magnificent beaches and enjoy this amazing run point?

 

Mickey Gordon  30:21

It really is good. Yeah, punished as you should, because you’d like to be in a great mood, by the time I get where I’m going, Oh, I want to take the opportunity to thank you for your diligence as a leader to do what you’ve done for these folks. I’ve heard from a few different leaders in Jamaica that have gone above and beyond for their employees with stipends to help people in this really unprecedented time. So as a leader, my hat’s off to you. But also, thank you for spending some time with us today to talk about this because a lot of people are concerned and people love God obey. Obey. Obey is kind of a, it’s the worst kept secret. But at the same time, I think every time I walk through that line, somebody says, Are these special? like is that? Are they a celebrity, that’s the treatment you get. And I think that’s by design. So thank you for what you build here. This is,

 

Shelly Ann Fung-King  31:11

you’re very welcome. And I will tell you one more thing. Our team members are without a doubt, the most important resources that we have, we found that if we take good care of our team members, they’re gonna take exceptional care of the guests. And that’s what we want. And if the guests are happy, everybody’s happy. The families of these team members are happy to because they create pity. So we have zero problem, investing everything we have in our team members, and I will share not even $1 revenue we were able to collect from March to present. And we’ve been pumping as much as we possibly can to our team members. We’re extremely grateful. And even the participation level from those videos I will tell you about. It’s incredible. We only have 480. Team members, and we have a poor group with these videos. And our views from the videos are like 680, I don’t know where we get to keep watching, which means it’s motivating them. If I tell you how many letters I get from team members saying, Thank you. Just thank you. We have church goers, too. And we have what we call worship on Wednesdays where we have a minister who for those people who believe in the faith, and they’re strong in their faith, that they can worship with somebody. And we provide that avenue for them. So it’s amazing.

 

Mickey Gordon  32:30

My group is going to be thrilled to hear from you. We all use club obey pretty religiously. So this will be a great advertisement for future business, but also a reminder of what to come home to. So thank you again. And if there’s anything we can do for you just reach out and let us know because we love talking about it. So when there’s new amenities come down. I would love to do a phone interview.

 

Mallory Gordon  32:52

Sure, absolutely. You’re very welcome. All right. Well, that was a great interview with Shelly and anything you’d like to add? Well,

 

Mickey Gordon  33:18

I just think it really is a testament to how great of a service they have and how well they treat their employees. But more importantly, how they view people coming into the island. I think that if you can use mauvais you should use Moby and if you’ve never done it before, don’t miss out. It’s badass.

 

Mallory Gordon  33:34

Yeah, I know. I wasn’t there. But now I feel like her and I are friends. Oh.

 

Mickey Gordon  33:38

They even came to see me off by the way. Oh, with a new one I was leaving. And they came in hung out with me in the lounge for a little bit to ask how my trip was and she brought a few of her peoples they could see my blue hair.

 

Mallory Gordon  33:47

Oh my gosh, they did go crazy for your blue hair. You’re insane.

 

Mickey Gordon  33:50

They really did.

 

Mallory Gordon  33:51

So next up, we’re going to be listening to your interview with Brandon Paxton from the island charters limited the people that run the cat cruises, right?

 

Mickey Gordon  33:59

Yeah. And he’s a lot of fun to interview. So we’ll hit that and see you’ll be back here in just a few minutes. Meeting. everybody welcome back to casual senior podcast. My name is Nikki I am still here without beautiful Mallory. And she’s going to be really bummed because one of her favorite people in the world is with me right now. His name is Brandon Paxson. He is with Island charters Company Limited. Also known as the grill cruises. They operate the catamarans out of hedonism to Brandon, how you doing today? I’m doing well. How you doing? I am hot.

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  34:47

It’s pretty hot. It’s pretty humid. There a slight breeze but we’re okay. Yeah,

 

Mickey Gordon  34:52

it’s been it’s been a little brutal, man. But you know what? We’ll deal with that. Yeah, we’ll we’ll make it work. So tell me a little bit About Island cruises and what you guys do? Tell me, tell me about your business. Like, let’s let’s hear what you guys do, supposedly and we all know what you actually do you take naked people?

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  35:11

Well, we do assortments of cruises. And we pick up from different locations. So hedonism to is one of our hotspots. And one of our hotels that we based out of as well. And we take guests twice a week from here Tuesday morning at 1030. And Thursday afternoon at three to six. We also can do private charters, like a lot of the groups come in and they request a private charter just for their own group, and things like that, that we tried to work with them, depending on the requesters and stuff like that. Awesome.

 

Mickey Gordon  35:50

How long have you guys been doing charters and cruises.

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  35:53

I mean, um, I love charter was established in 1994. There were it was all it was called I son cruises before the business started out in 1981. We had one wooden 45 foot catamaran My father was actually the one in charge back then. We also upgraded from in 1994 is when we got our first catamaran and we still got it. And you know during the year as we also increase their boats, people are coming in more often, flow was coming in. So we end up eventually getting more catamarans. So right now as we stand in 2020 we have four catamarans. And we have a luxurious

 

Mickey Gordon  36:42

yacht. I see it floating out there, right? Yes. So you’ve spent most of your life on the Caribbean? Oh, yeah. I mean, you grew up here. Oh, yeah. Born and raised here in Jamaica. Yeah. It’s so one of the first things you know, I met you. Shit 10 years ago, maybe it’s been a long time, a long time. And we were restricting because you’re you speak like a Jamaican but your location dude.

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  37:06

Yes, I am a Jamaican and I’m a Caucasian. Yes, I’m born and raised here. I get the question a lot. A lot of people say you’re white. But why are you talking like that? You know, I get that question all the time. But it’s not a problem. I just answer as as it comes along. I feel it’s natural. You know, I love my culture. I love where I was born. And you know, God made me this way. And I’m just white. I’m a white Jamaican, as they call it, you know. So,

 

Mickey Gordon  37:35

for a couple of years we referred to you is the only white Jamaican we’d ever met. There’s a few we’ve met a few since then.

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  37:40

There is a few but I’m actually they probably the only white Jamaican that’s operating a catamaran in Jamaica. That’s probably true. I

 

Mickey Gordon  37:48

would say that. That’s definitely. So one of the other things that I noticed about you last time we were out and it was it wasn’t one of the times when I did one of my spectacular belly flops off the side here. Yeah, we get that a lot. Yeah, we usually because I slip not because they mean to but it make it look like I mean to when I come home, I’m okay. You drive that big boat? Like it’s a fucking compact car. Man, you drive that thing? Like, it’s nothing? How much time do you spend behind the wheel of the big boat.

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  38:17

Um, I used to spend a lot of time on it. I’m, I’m no longer actually on the boat anymore as a captain, because I’m the actual operation manager right now. So there’s a lot more going on from my end of the role. But if if the sense that one of my captains is feeling sick or cannot make it to work, I will fill in for that captain. I got it. But I used to spend a lot of times I mean, from like nine o’clock in the morning till about probably about sunset, which is about 7am.

 

Mickey Gordon  38:48

So just being out on the ocean?

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  38:50

I do. I do miss it. A lot of a lot of companies, you know, groups and stuff come in like, oh, Brian, and and you’re coming on the board. You can be the captain. I said no, not actually, I’m not you know, I’m off the boats now. But I’ll make sure that the same service that I gave you, my staff member will apply as well.

 

Mickey Gordon  39:09

Yeah, sometimes you have to grow up, right. It’s no fun. We got

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  39:12

  1. We got to grow up. Yes. But if it’s a case where they actually request me, and they give me like, a year or half a year, I can probably make that happen. Anything for the customer, anything for the customers, you make them happy? Awesome. That’s what we do.

 

Mickey Gordon  39:29

So I want to get to the COVID stuff, which is really what everybody’s talking about. Before I do that, tell me what it’s like to grow up in Jamaica is. I mean, as I hate to say it, but it’s a white guy. I get that question a lot as well. Yeah.

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  39:45

I mean, raising living in Jamaica, it’s hard. I’m not saying it’s easy. I mean, anywhere you go in the world. It’s not easy. It’s it’s going to be challenges. But for me going to school and all that I had to School in my neighborhood, which was recently opened brand new when I was going to school back then. And I had friends that we were friends in the neighborhood and we all went to school together same grade. So it’s very easy for me to get in and not be bullied. Oh, this white guy. There’s like, tons of black kids, right? So for me, it was very easy to grow up in a neighborhood that was you know, loyal, friendly. People are nice to you that kind of stuff. There is some violence, but not where I’m from. So it wasn’t it wasn’t a big deal. No, it wasn’t a big deal. Just a normal day for me. That’s awesome. You know, everybody loves me, I do. I have respect for people. You know, I try to be the best person I can be if I can facilitate it, I will tell them up front. That, you know, I try to be straight with people upfront.

 

Mickey Gordon  40:53

I think if the rest of the world was like that, we’d have a lot less bullshit.

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  40:56

I know. I know. I know. You know, if you don’t know something telephone, you don’t know. Don’t make up shit. You know what? It is what it is? A lot of people are not like me, you know, I can’t blame that. But everybody has their own role to take.

 

Mickey Gordon  41:11

So let’s talk about COVID. How did COVID hit your business that island traders?

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  41:15

Um, it hit me pretty well, hard. I should say. I’ve been shut down for the last four months. Yeah. Yep. No business last I the last day I think was in March. I don’t remember the exact date. But that that actually did two hedonism cruises. On that day. I was supposed to do a hedonism cruise on a Thursday afternoon with a wall. So I ended up pushing them on to Wednesday afternoon, because I had a Wednesday morning with topless travels. So I just combined it together. And that was it. That was either shut down, the crew went home, you know, the bolts were shut down. And it’s just been tough. But we’ve been keeping it together. For the past four months, as I said, we’ve been renovating my staff comes in the maintenance team, they clean the paint. We’re putting into new engines right now into tour to go. We’re actually gonna do a test run this afternoon. That’s a pretty boat. A lot of people like Tortuga they love it. They love the color, the style, how the seats are formed the whole shebang.

 

Mickey Gordon  42:30

It’s a cool boat. It’s bright yellow with blue letters. For those of you that haven’t seen for too good. It’s It’s

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  42:35

It’s a fun boat. waterslide is on it now. And

 

Mickey Gordon  42:39

you guys are ready to jam. So as I said,

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  42:41

the boats right now are in their best condition. So we’re ready for the season. So we’re ready for anything, right? Just make it up. And you know, all the problems we had before are all recuperated and ready to go.

 

Mickey Gordon  42:57

So you’re a couple of days from your COVID certification.

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  43:00

We are Yes, we recently got our COVID-19 resilience certificate. We did a training on Thursday with all my staff members. So what does that

 

Mickey Gordon  43:10

mean? I mean, what what’s different about going out on a catamaran today, obviously we’ll be able to because you’re getting certified. We are

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  43:16

getting certified. But I’m the prime minister will announce this afternoon because, as we all know, the attraction section right now is permanently closed. No attraction is not supposed to be operating right now as we speak. So we’re hoping that the prime minister will speak tonight and see what he says to uplift the band of the attractions. And so we can start business. But if it’s a case like hedonism, for example, they have their own private watersports, so they can carry out their water sports activities. You know, if it’s a case, say like Margaritaville, a person can’t book Margaritaville right now as a tour or like Chaka, or any activities that you have to actually leave the resort.

 

Mickey Gordon  44:06

Now, I expect you probably have no idea. But how long do you think this is going to go on? Hmm. Any guesses? Um, I know, it’s a tough question. A

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  44:19

lot of people ask me that how long it’s gonna go on for. I mean, there’s a lot of protocols right now. And it will go on for a couple of months. I’m hoping you know, by January, everything should be mellowed out. Where it’s a lot easier to do bands are kind of lifted a little bit. rules can be bent a little bit. But for now, it’s protocols, protocols, protocols, strictly protocols because

 

Mickey Gordon  44:49

it’s how you get to stay in business.

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  44:51

Exactly. And I you know, I have to work with the governments with the rules. And as well I have to work with my customers. Yeah, make them happy. I have to make each person happy. In a sense, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Even if it cost me more money, or say it cost me more time, I will do it. That’s the kind of person I am. I think

 

Mickey Gordon  45:15

that’s why we all love getting on your boats to tell me. Did you have to lay anybody off? I mean, did it? Did it really hurt your business?

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  45:23

Um, no, I still have all my staff members. When basically, the government had a plan for all the, this the person who got laid off for work for the three months, to give them like a part time money every two weeks. But basically, you know, we’ve been basically helping our staff members every week, every two weeks,

 

Mickey Gordon  45:49

maybe out of your pocket to help

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  45:51

zactly. So we’ve been taken out of pocket, helping our staff members, because you have to understand, they have families at home, they need to eat, they have bills coming in. So life is still going on, even though they’re not working.

 

Mickey Gordon  46:08

The kids are still hungry every day.

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  46:09

Exactly. The kids are hungry, you know, the wife is hungry, everybody’s hungry. So and I tried to and I what I tried to do as well, I tried to rotate my staff members work, they come in, they do like a weeks of work, you know, cleaning, perforating the boat kind of stuff to kind of give them some activities, so they don’t go crazy. I’m staying home and looking at the walls, you know,

 

Mickey Gordon  46:32

the last thing you need is them to go crazy.

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  46:33

Exactly. So I try to try to stay to work with everybody. But my team members have been responsible. And as I said, Today, we did a staff member meeting with everybody, each department, and everybody’s complaining, and everybody’s happy, and everybody wants to get back to work. That’s fantastic. So they’re ready for business.

 

Mickey Gordon  46:54

So what sort of restrictions have they put on you for the boats,

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  46:59

alright, for the boats, now the restrictions are, I only can take half of my capacity. So say, for example, one of my catamarans are licensed to take 90 guests, I only can take half of the capacity, because what they’re doing is that I have to create something called six feet apart. But on a boat, it’s kind of tricky to do six feet apart. So what they’ve done is just cut the capacity in half and say, Oh, you only can do 50 people. And then each person among themselves should know how to space themselves out. encourage people to do their best, that as well. And, you know, my staff members are complaining right now because they also have to wear a mass as you probably know, all have to wear masks, it’s very hard to breathe through it. And also, you know, gloves and sanitization runs, and we have to do like signs and all sorts of stuff. It’s just never ending, but we’re gonna get through it. And people just have to work with us. And we’ll work with them as best as we can, you know, so, yes, it’s COVID. But, you know, they’re also here for vacation. They’re not here to be stuck into a room for 14 days, they’re going to want to do stuff. So

 

Mickey Gordon  48:17

you guys are remarkably positive for all of these restrictions and protocols.

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  48:21

Oh, yeah, we we’ve done on as well, um, my when when you’re actually boarding the catamaran as well, there is three structions that the guests will get attended by my cruise directors, which they have to get to call a temperature check, which you’re going to see the temperatures are abnormal. They’re going to get sanitized, and they have to also log in.

 

Mickey Gordon  48:48

Wow. So they have to do amazingly difficult things. Not difficult, but they have to do they have to play their part as well. It was turning from the wind, it’s a little bit easier. There we go. So when we talk about people coming back, I mean, do you have are these boots booking full at least at the limited capacity they’re in? I mean,

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  49:09

we as I said we have four catamarans right now, we’re basically going to work out of the resorts. If there is a case where I need a second vessel, so occupy my full capacity what it normally will I will do that. Fantastic but I just have to know in prior where Pete when people are booking me email, they have to send me the numbers that they will have, and I will make that happen.

 

Mickey Gordon  49:36

How do people book through your company? Well,

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  49:39

they can email us our email is CEO, cw jamaica.com or they can contact me or the office. My numbers 876-484-3300 The office is 87687822 Eight, seven, the person in the office is called cleave. A lot of people know him. He deals with the office and the whole managing of that department. A lot of people are also familiar with what’s up. It’s becoming a very business icon or app. So

 

Mickey Gordon  50:18

I talked to all my Jamaican friends.

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  50:21

So a lot of people can also WhatsApp me through message, you know, photos contract, whatever they want to do. It does everything it videos it voice. It does everything. Let’s hope you hooked up for this interview. Right? You know, you just contacted me, and we’re now we’re here talking. Yeah. You know, as easy as that.

 

Mickey Gordon  50:39

Is that easy? Well, I want to thank you for spending a few minutes with me today and talking about your company and how you guys have responded to COVID. If you could tell anybody why they should come back and book a cruise for Jamaica, what would you say? I mean, would you would you tell people get your ass back here? Would you say waived to be cautious?

 

Brandon – Negril Charters  50:56

Um, I would say I’m actually a little of both. Yeah. Um, I do want people to be safe. At the same time, but have fun at the same time. So if it’s a case where you booked your vacation, because people booked their vacation one year in a prior, correct. So if you have plans to come to hedonism to or any other resorts come, but you know, be safe at the same time. And there’s certain guidelines that everyone has to follow, just for a little bit. You know, it’s not life threatening. So yeah, I would say Come. Come in, enjoy the catamarans come and enjoy the beautiful signs of water the hotel, the resorts are already. Oh, yeah, we have all these protocols ready to go for you.

 

Mickey Gordon  51:45

Ladies and gentlemen, you’ve been hearing from Brandon Paxson. He’s with an island charter, and Island charter runs cruises out of a lot of different resorts. Most importantly, they run him out of hedonism, too. As you heard in the interview, my name is Mickey and I’m on site here hedonism to getting information for you guys. We’ll be back with you shortly.

 

Mallory Gordon  52:19

Awesome interview with Brandon Paxton, one of my favorite people.

 

Mickey Gordon  52:24

I really like him. He’s, you know, he made time for me because he was so freaking busy. I happen to catch him during a staff meeting. And he’s and he’s like, I promise we’ll do it. I promise we’ll do it. Then he had to leave. Well, I texted him, and he got on a boat and came back to meet with me. He didn’t know that time he drove across orange Bay to meet with me. So he dropped what he was doing. He’s like, nope, we’re doing it. Mickey, I’m coming. Relax, I’ll be there. And I waited for him on the dock. And he came back and go That’s

 

Mallory Gordon  52:55

fantastic. You know that that company as a whole even before we get to know them has always been really, really good to us the really good to their patrons and the clients of Hito.

 

Mickey Gordon  53:05

Yeah, awesome. But and they’ve just they’ve they’ve got a great outlook on everything. Of course. They’re expats, you know, his mom, Patti, who’s been ill, by the way, and she’s doing a little bit better. So that’s good to hear. Yeah, but she’s definitely been quarantined because she cannot afford to catch COVID. Right. He’s like, he’s not they’re not letting her out of the house. But things are going really well. For those guys. They’re busy as hell. And more importantly, since we didn’t cover it in the interview, they are open and allowed to do cruises. So we’re really excited to get out there with them and Rachel’s rascals. And

 

Mallory Gordon  53:35

yeah, we’re gonna have some shenanigans. Starting in November. Oh, boy,

 

Mickey Gordon  53:39

I don’t even want to know what you have on your mind.

 

Mallory Gordon  53:42

Oh, man, they get better every year. So then this next one is again, one of the staple humans that you see here. Oh, not a not a staff member, not a guest. Again, the beaches of Jamaica are no one’s property. They belong to the island. So you will see locals from time to time walking the shoreline and shell boy is definitely a staple, very kind, entertaining. Positive human being.

 

Mickey Gordon  54:11

He is and he’s, he’s amazing. And I think he really personifies what it what Jamaican people are all about, which is love and happiness and respect. And that’s him in a nutshell. I mean, yeah, he sells weed on the beach and seashells, but he’s honest, he is and he’s just such a cool ass guy. And of course, I’ve got a pretty cool picture of him that I’m probably gonna make the episode art for this. I think that’s good. I love that just because it’s just he’s so freakin cool. And we’re really excited to do this one. So, without further ado, let’s get into this interview with Shell boy. We’ll be back everybody welcome back this is Mickey with the casual swinger podcast I’m on the beach with Shell boy if you don’t know shell boy you haven’t been to Jamaica. My man walks around on the beach he’s got the best balance of any human being I’ve ever seen. Oh boy How are you today?

 

Shellboy  55:19

I’m great sir I’m just here relaxing enjoying myself to see all my people come back in Jamaica to have a great time because you know Jamaica is where you’ll see shall boy that’s right. You know it’s number one sunshine is here. Balancing greetings love you guys all I hope you make it down. Welcome back to paradise. You know,

 

Mickey Gordon  55:38

so when people come to hedonism, what kinds of things can they get from you?

 

Shellboy  55:41

Well you know I’m a shell boy I do exercise in balancing and if you want a little Marwan I call it spinello I got it. Yeah. I got it.

 

Mickey Gordon  55:53

So and you sell shells to Yes, I

 

Shellboy  55:54

said shells also. That’s awesome. Yes. But most of all I do my little by little spinella, we call it Marwan in Romero was no pressure no rush. What you want is what you get. That’s right.

 

Mickey Gordon  56:04

Yeah. And so and you know, a lot of the people here on the beach don’t have clothes on No, but you come and you bring them to smoke and they just pay you later Yes, you take care of people need to hear us always. Nevertheless, sunshiny day Tell me what happened when when they closed the country for COVID What happened to your business?

 

Shellboy  56:21

Well, when it closed for the COVID WhatsApp and everything got flat footed because I see none of my guests coming in and you are the strength for Jamaica. Always. That’s why I make sure I prepare a special balancing for you

 

Mickey Gordon  56:35

How did you get by

 

Shellboy  56:36

well see there was nothing something now because what No, no guests here. So I want to tell everybody to come down to seashell boy in Jamaica. Yeah. And greetings in the mighty name of Jesus is soon coming King love Yes sir. Yes, love never done.

 

Mickey Gordon  56:50

Did you guys fish Did you get I mean, they mean trees and mangoes and coconuts. Yeah, how did you eat?

 

Shellboy  56:56

What what I do I have coconut in my yard have bread fruit, mango, Guinea perhaps? have coconut I have lime. So that’s what I feed off until all my people get back in the house

 

Mickey Gordon  57:07

and you’ll never starve to death will

 

Shellboy  57:09

you know I wouldn’t ever I know have good friends like you will send something funny. So big up to all my good friends back home.

 

Mickey Gordon  57:15

You got it? Yes. Shall we just this is just a real quick opportunity to get people to hear how positive you are and how amazing you are. And when they see you walking down the beach. Walk up and give you some knuckles and give you respect.

 

Shellboy  57:26

Yes, they always do that. That’s why I respect them from don’t matter. We’re from Canada, America, England. No matter where you’re from. You are come back to Jamaica. We are here and ready to show that we are we are one family and we are lovers, not fighters. We love Welcome back. All right, thank

 

Mickey Gordon  57:42

you show boy respect to you my friend. Mickey with the casual swinger podcast, giving you shell boy from the beaches of Jamaica. He’s one of the staples here at hedonism, too. If you haven’t been here before, you got to meet this guy. He’s one of the most passionate people I’ve ever met before. And he’s right here on the beach waiting for you. And they’re not even open yet. July 1, come down and see shell boy, this has been Mickey with the casual summer podcast and you read

 

Mallory Gordon  58:25

so good here. I know that was short and sweet. But that made my heart happy.

 

Mickey Gordon  58:29

Yeah, you know, the wind was blowing at a pretty good clip. So I knew I was going to struggle with the audio a little bit on that. But I it was just so great. And he was so willing actually got a video of him too. And he ran he swam out into the ocean with the ball on his head. I’m not swaying back with the ball on his head and never lost it.

 

Mallory Gordon  58:44

Yeah, I’m not surprised. Yeah, I mean, Cirque du Soleil should be looking for this guy.

 

Mickey Gordon  58:50

You really should. And he calls it balancing and exercising and, and that’s what he does. And it was just so cool to sit and chat with him for a little while and it really made my day. But you know what else made my day is what we have coming in the next episode. Oh

 

Mallory Gordon  59:03

my god, we’re so weird. So should we give them a little teaser? I think we should anyone who’s still listening,

 

Mickey Gordon  59:08

so hasn’t checked the fuck out by now.

 

Mallory Gordon  59:11

A good friend of ours that we’ve know. Well, you’ve known forever. I’ve known only since I’ve known you so maybe 15 years or so. Mr. Vanilla, aka

 

Mickey Gordon  59:22

the alabaster screw.

 

Mallory Gordon  59:25

Boys are so mean to each other.

 

Mickey Gordon  59:29

He’s so fucking white. He’s transparent.

 

Mallory Gordon  59:31

What is the ginger beard?

 

59:33

Right? golden ginger beard.

 

Mickey Gordon  59:35

Yukon Cornelius. We need to get

 

Mallory Gordon  59:40

those little apps with the fluffy pig on top.

 

Mickey Gordon  59:43

Yeah, so. So this dude came down to hang out with us for a while. I’ve known him forever. And he said, You know, I want to be on your podcast and we’re like, you know what? You’re so fucking vanilla. You should be on our podcast. He was asking a lot of questions. And of course, the drunker he helps, the more questions he asked.

 

Mallory Gordon  59:57

So but he’s always if he has a question. It’s always kind of grazes the surface and then he stumps because he’s got a great respect for you know our privacy when it as it relates to intimacy and that stuff but he’s always kind of known you’ve been in the lifestyle and then by proxy after we’d been together for a while, picked it up.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:00:18

Yeah, he did and he’s always really respectful about it. And we’ll talk about this next week when we come back to you guys. But look forward to this episode because it was a lot of fun to record with a complete vanilla who’d never done anything lifestyle in his whole life. I think

 

Mallory Gordon  1:00:33

I almost peed myself from laughing and I’m kind of embarrassed to admit that but yeah, it was it was a good time.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:00:41

It was and I would definitely have him back on again. Because, you know, as the evening went on, after we finished recording, he had, I don’t know, 16 Bourbons or something and he hadn’t so many.

 

Mallory Gordon  1:00:51

I failed on you guys at 2am it was a school night like, and I felt someone come to bed. I wasn’t sure which one of you at work because you know, you guys had been drinking. Yeah. We get it all end up there. For all I know. It wasn’t far from setup.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:01:07

I know that it was late. It was very late night know that we were feeling it the next day. So that’s why we’ll talk about this next week. Why don’t you let everybody know where to find us if they have anything to say to the team that is casual swing?

 

Mallory Gordon  1:01:20

Awesome. Well, feel free to shoot us a message directly if you would like to podcast at casual swinger.com if you love what we’re doing, I would greatly appreciate the review on iTunes. That would be fantastic. And we’re casual swing are everywhere. That is Facebook, Instagram, YouTube and Twitter if you’re on social media and hell check out our dating site. Why not? We’re on double date nation, Cassidy quiver, STC and SLS.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:01:47

Yeah, that’s pretty much all over the place in hell even kick. So we get kicked messages. I’m just gonna warn

 

Mallory Gordon  1:01:55

you I only check them like twice a week because I’m like a squirrel on acid. Really hard for me to concentrate.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:02:03

Alright guys, the squirrel on acid now we’re gonna get out of here. Thanks for tuning in. You guys been listening? Hi,

 

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