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Slut Actualization

Thu, 9/2 10:03AM • 1:05:57

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

toys, porn, people, casual, fantasy, actualization, mfm, motor, thinking, head, feel, masturbate, couple, call, set, sounds, swinger, test, premium, put

SPEAKERS

Mickey Gordon, Mallory Gordon

 

Mallory Gordon  00:02

You’re listening to the casual swinger podcast as your hosts, we need to warn you that the material you’re about to hear may be sexual or explicit in nature. This podcast is intended for an adult audience. Now we don’t expect you to act like adults. What’s the fun in that?

 

Mickey Gordon  00:16

We’re a married couple living in Florida with over 13 years of experience in the lifestyle and we take almost nothing seriously. Casual swingers a variety show meaning we’ll cover everything from music to events, travel, and even the occasional hilarious screw up. Our show is about entertainment. We’re not licensed professionals had anything and our stories, commentary and guidance should not be confused with the opinions of a licensed professional.

 

Mallory Gordon  00:41

Now that you know, lipstick those pants off and get comfy. Welcome back to casual swinger. I am Mallory.

 

Mickey Gordon  00:54

Once again. Hi, Mickey. Hi, Mickey. Oh, miss you. Oh, yeah, right. Looks like we haven’t done this. Like three times in the last three days.

 

Mallory Gordon  01:01

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we

 

Mickey Gordon  01:03

had some technical snafu over here and things crashed. So that was not awesome.

 

Mallory Gordon  01:08

Now we’re getting our sea legs back.

 

Mickey Gordon  01:10

Yeah, well, we got on that like once a month rotation right now just with the holidays and stuff. It’s been kind of crazy. But these guys are going to be happy. If you like casual swinger. There’s going to be a lot of new shows coming out in the next couple weeks. Whoo. I’m excited. And we already recorded and we might as well.

 

Mallory Gordon  01:26

Yeah, we’ve been sitting on some content here.

 

Mickey Gordon  01:28

Yeah, I think it’s good stuff, though. I think it’s gonna be a good time. But today, today is the 14th episode of season three. And it is solet actualization.

 

Mallory Gordon  01:38

I’m so excited for this one. I’m a little nervous.

 

Mickey Gordon  01:40

It’s all about you. So you should a

 

Mallory Gordon  01:42

little bit a little bit. I think we’re gonna get into the dark, freaky corners of my mind.

 

Mickey Gordon  01:47

Yeah, so if you guys have been waiting for episode about sex from us, this is probably it. But why don’t you tell everybody what sex actually so what is it? slet actualization? Yes.

 

Mallory Gordon  01:59

So I we’ve been having some conversations and I’ve been digging into some fantasies and I’ve decided I want to do a porn, which I know it’s so it’s so not out of character for me, but it’s definitely different. We’re gonna make money and well, I don’t think it’s gonna be wait. Everyone else deems as porn. I don’t even know. But we’ll get it. We’ll get into the details. But I definitely I’m, I’m interested in in this could be executable for us like it could actually happen.

 

Mickey Gordon  02:26

Okay, well get into Mallory’s journey of slut actualization here in a few. But before we do that, let’s talk about kind of, you know, why haven’t we recorded what’s been going on? And then we have a breaking news item we need to get into it. Okay. Yeah. But, you know, at least from my perspective, I know we’ve been kind of slow.

 

Mallory Gordon  02:45

Yeah, for sure. And I feel like we’ve let some of our listeners down. But, well, it’s been hard. I feel

 

Mickey Gordon  02:51

like when you get on and you just talk just to talk, you’re kind of doing them a disservice as well. And with parties being frowned upon. I mean, we had our friends party in LA. That got busted. Yeah,

 

Mallory Gordon  03:02

yeah. riot gear. The whole nine. Everyone has given citations. Yeah,

 

Mickey Gordon  03:05

yeah. So there’s 100 people at a party and 90 cops show up and riot gear and everybody in the party is wearing masks and yeah, Oh, well. You’re all still arrested anyway. Yeah. Jesus.

 

Mallory Gordon  03:14

Yeah. What what happened with that one in Brazil? You were telling me about

 

Mickey Gordon  03:17

Oh, the one where the cop Got it? They mistook him for a stripper. Yeah.

 

Mallory Gordon  03:23

That would be me. I’d be the domestic the party asking where his boom boxes and letting them know I have a lot of one. So get to it.

 

Mickey Gordon  03:29

Yeah, get to it, Big Boy without that nightstick. But yeah, I think it’s just kind of been a bad time to talk just to talk. And I mean, people are starting to get their sexy back. We’re looking on Twitter and whatnot and seeing a lot more people starting to feel sexy. But and then I guess the other thing, which is a fairly recent development is all this stuff going on politically right now. Some people are social medias really polarizing. So people are kind of pulling back from that a little bit and going, I don’t even want to look.

 

Mallory Gordon  03:56

Yeah, that show. That’s fair.

 

Mickey Gordon  03:59

So I just think that that’s all been good reasons to just kind of take a chill pill. We haven’t really been doing much. And you know, that’s where some of these fantasies come from these conversations come from is saying, Hey, we’re locked in a box. What can we do with each other? While we’re in a box? What would be cool? Yeah. And that’s kind of where the Genesis or the idea for this episode came from. So I kind of think people are gonna like it. You know, we had our February trip for the rascals coming up, and then some big news came out.

 

Mallory Gordon  04:26

That’s true. So there’s been some chatter and information going around about the CDC guidelines. That were they released the 15th 13th of this month.

 

Mickey Gordon  04:36

Yeah, just so January 13, January 14, the new guidelines came out. And you know, we’re recording now on the 18th of January, and nothing’s really changed. It’s, it’s all in we’re gonna put it in the show notes for you. There’s a fairly significant document. So it’s got a lot to it.

 

Mallory Gordon  04:53

And it has to do now correct me if I’m wrong, if I’m wrong with international travel, and the biggest change is people that are coming back into or traveling into the United States.

 

Mickey Gordon  05:03

Well, yeah, so it’s always been the case and just speaking specifically about Jamaica, because that’s kind of our jam. You know, you always had to have a PCR test within 10 days to get into Jamaica. But now you need a test within three days to get out.

 

Mallory Gordon  05:15

Okay, so you have to test negative Yes. Okay. Before you come back to the United States.

 

Mickey Gordon  05:19

Yeah. Which is, I mean, it’s crazy. I can

 

Mallory Gordon  05:22

imagine a lot of these resorts in places are trying to pivot as fast as humanly possible, right, in order to provide or at least give access or information to guests that are planning to return back to the United States. Yeah,

 

Mickey Gordon  05:34

pretty much all the major resorts in Jamaica. So sandals, Royalton, hedonism, have all come out and said that they’re going to give the tests for free since rapid tests are okay.

 

Mallory Gordon  05:43

Yeah. And this is going to be presented to the airlines,

 

Mickey Gordon  05:46

right at the gate. So you have to show them your test. It has to be within three days, and it has to be negative. If it’s not negative, then you have to quarantine for 14 days on the island. Yeah.

 

Mallory Gordon  05:55

And you can’t leave until you test negative.

 

Mickey Gordon  05:57

Yeah, so it’s kind of terrifying. Yeah.

 

Mallory Gordon  06:00

I mean, it’s kind of that gray area, right? Because, you know, everyone’s still gathering more information. So like, if I do test positive, where am I quarantined? And what is it going to cost me? And what if I get worse?

 

Mickey Gordon  06:11

Yeah. And we don’t actually have an answer on that right now. Because the resort came out with a statement. And in the in the statement, they said that accommodations will be provided, but they didn’t say they’ll be provided for free. So desire went one step further, and actually said how much those accommodations are going to cost? It’s $125 per person per night. So $250 a night for two weeks, if you get stuck at desire. Ouch. Yeah, kind of, are we? Yeah, so but he hasn’t said anything yet. The way that they worded it, it certainly looks like it’s gonna be at no cost. But we’re still trying to get come from Yeah,

 

Mallory Gordon  06:45

yeah. Yeah. I wouldn’t like put all my money on that. And it, wouldn’t it? Yeah. It’s hard to say, right? Because it’s not in writing?

 

Mickey Gordon  06:51

Well, and you know, it’s easy to say if it’s one person or two people, right, or one couple or two couples, it’s a lot harder to say if 30 couples get it and that’s true time, then all of a sudden, the resort is closed for two weeks and providing services for free. And that I just don’t know, I don’t know how feasible that is, which is why we’re trying to get confirmation.

 

Mallory Gordon  07:11

Yeah. And you had mentioned that there was an exemption, and that right up?

 

Mickey Gordon  07:15

Oh, yeah. So to completely forgot about that. So the exemption basically, is if you have had COVID, and you’ve recovered from COVID, in the last 60 days, and you have a letter from your doctor on their letterhead that says that you have you’re good to go that’ll get you back into the country.

 

Mallory Gordon  07:29

Okay, so that’s good for re entry. So say you’re a US citizen, you leave and you have this letter and you can come back to it so exempts you from testing.

 

Mickey Gordon  07:35

Yeah, well for the return trip, but not for your trip to Jamaica, you still need your testing. Okay, so Okay, I got it now. So

 

Mallory Gordon  07:41

you still need your negative test to get in, which is the PCR to get out that letter on the official letterhead from you know, a physician.

 

Mickey Gordon  07:48

Yeah, that’s got to be from your doctor, and it’s got to be legit, Doctor, it can’t be Dr. Kevorkian. Oh, my God,

 

Mallory Gordon  07:54

I haven’t heard that name in forever, right. Yeah,

 

Mickey Gordon  07:56

I just made myself look old. Yeah, so it’s got to be legit doctor legit letterhead. And, interestingly enough, immunizations don’t count.

 

Mallory Gordon  08:04

Yeah, I was just gonna say, you know, you’re we’re starting to see the the vaccine rollout and we know people that you know, have gotten it, and it’s really not going to give them as far as we know, right now.

 

Mickey Gordon  08:14

I don’t know. I mean, what they pretty much believe at least, that they’re not going to get stuck, right? If they have the immunisation. At least they know they’re gonna go down there, and they’re not going to test test positive and get stuck unless they get a false negative because rapids are notorious for false negatives and false positives. rapids are wrong, like 60% of the time. So that would make me concerned regardless of whether

 

Mallory Gordon  08:33

that’s fair, that’s fair. So that leads us to the next bet. With all this new developing guidelines, what are we doing in February,

 

Mickey Gordon  08:42

we’re not going, which I hate to tell, you know, our friends with the rascals and our friends at the resort. The fact of the matter is, we can’t afford to get stuck in Jamaica for two weeks, we’ve got kids or kid, he’s a pretty Actually, he takes good care of us. He’s He’s really Tez

 

Mallory Gordon  08:57

I was gonna say he’s probably the most responsible human in this house. But at the same time, like, it’s just, we can’t do that. And with our jobs, too, a lot has changed, and our vanilla day to day lives. And that’s also evolving. And it’s just a huge risk right now. And as much as I want to be there in my favorite place on Earth, it doesn’t make sense. No,

 

Mickey Gordon  09:15

it really can’t just, it’s too much of a risk right now to get stuck and not be able to get back here. It’s even working from home. So we’re out, which means November is the next trip up. If you guys are interested in traveling with us, make sure you go to our website at www casual swinger.com and go to travel with us. You can fill out your information right there. And we will get back to you with information on the trip, including a link where you can book your very own trip to come with us and our friends. Rachel’s rascals do us too. And

 

Mallory Gordon  09:45

Mika, and I do love the February trip. I think it’s gonna be the biggest one on record. November you mean? Yeah, that’s what I said.

 

Mickey Gordon  09:51

You said February. I did. That’s okay. Um, more coffee, please. More coffee. Yeah, so yeah, that’s the plan. We’re gonna be there in November. Make sure you come out with this. I think That trips gonna be balls to the wall crazy. 150 200 rooms summer. Yeah, it’s gonna be alright, we’re

 

Mallory Gordon  10:07

gonna blow the roof off that place. It’s

 

Mickey Gordon  10:09

gonna be a good party. Hey, wait enough with the bummer shit. Let’s talk about what’s great.

 

Mallory Gordon  10:14

So many great things. So I started to tell you this, so I’ll just rewind and say it again. I am so fucking impressed and proud of all the work you’ve done with garnering new relationships for really exceptional products that we’re carrying. Now, you’ve been busting your ass,

 

Mickey Gordon  10:31

and a bunch

 

Mallory Gordon  10:32

of super, super proud. But what we’ve what you’ve curated, though, is just amazing. Can we kind of run through like some of the changes that have been made

 

Mickey Gordon  10:41

outside of the products? Maybe that hasn’t been on casual toys lately, we’ve definitely made some changes. We’ve made some changes to the site, how it functions. We have a new feature coming that you won’t see just yet, but I’m almost done with it, which is a certain search filter. How well yeah, you bring up you know, laundry, and I’ve got 9000 items on there. Well, now you can sort by color sort by size or by type, and really just kind of isolate that done very much like Amazon.

 

Mallory Gordon  11:04

Yeah, user friendly. I love that.

 

Mickey Gordon  11:06

And that has been a lot of work to build, but I’m really liking how that’s coming out. It’ll be an evolving thing

 

Mallory Gordon  11:12

I am. And we’ve also been talking a lot about the unique condoms. Oh, yeah, I know. It’s like, it’s like, shameless self promotion here. But we’re getting amazing feedback. Yes. from people that are buying them.

 

Mickey Gordon  11:24

Yeah, actually, the feedback from everybody that’s been buying these condoms is where have they been all my life? It changed the lifestyle for me, is the best condom I’ve ever seen. I’ve only had two people say they hate it. Jay from average swingers is one of them. And the only reason they hate it is because they felt like it wasn’t there. They felt like it broke or fell off. Yeah, they were like, Oh my god, there’s no condom because it felt so good. They couldn’t believe that there was a condom there.

 

Mallory Gordon  11:46

Yeah, it’s a game changer for sure.

 

Mickey Gordon  11:48

So Dave from double detonation said these are the condoms of the lifestyle.

 

Mallory Gordon  11:52

Oh, I like that. And it should be.

 

Mickey Gordon  11:56

That’s pretty cool for

 

Mallory Gordon  11:57

I mean, for me on the other side. Now granted, you know, the dude’s the one wearing the condom. But I’m very hyper aware of latex, the smell the texture. And it. It felt way better for me.

 

Mickey Gordon  12:09

Yeah. And you can use any lube with them. You can use coconut oil you can use whatever you want it. Yeah, exactly. So they’re just they’re they’re fucking awesome. I don’t know how to put it. I know they’re expensive. And I’ve had a couple of people come back and go Yeah, they’re a lot more expensive than skin. Yes, they aren’t but they are a lot better. A few people that were skin lifers have thrown away their skins and bought these pretty excited about them. You know, another one I’m really excited about. And this one is not for nothing is motor bunny.

 

Mallory Gordon  12:38

Ooh, so motor buddy. If you guys don’t know what that is, it’s a it’s like a civilian. So writable toy. I have one absolutely love mine. And we were able to establish a relationship with those guys. And now we’re their only ecommerce.

 

Mickey Gordon  12:52

Yeah, we’re the only guy we’re the only guys without a brick and mortar in the States. Yeah, I’m really excited have a relationship with murder bunny. So really exciting. We carry the motor bunny link, which is the Bluetooth enabled ride on toy, we do not carry the buck that’s not available in the channel. So if you want the buck, which is the thrusting version of the motor Bunny, okay, it’ll fuck your brains out while you’re riding it. That when you got to get direct from motor, but yeah, but they’re the attachments.

 

Mallory Gordon  13:18

Yeah, and this one still has the different rods for the spinner function for the insertable um, it has the, what do they call the levels where you would put riser riser, thank you, where you can adjust them for your body type so that they they touch or at least can make contact with you know your pelvis because everyone is shaped a little differently.

 

Mickey Gordon  13:35

Yeah, like where your client is. And it comes with four attachments, which are great, but they’re TP TP is a thermoplastic, thermoplastic elastomer, whatever I don’t it’s what it is, is a type of plastic that is a little less expensive than body safe, premium silicone, but it’s porous. So I usually tell people if you’re going to share your motor money at any time with anybody else, make sure you get the pink premium silicone attachments because those are non porous, you throw them in the dishwasher and they’re good to go.

 

Mallory Gordon  14:07

Ah, good info and I asked like it because it’s got tie downs.

 

Mickey Gordon  14:10

Yes. We can tie your ass to it you can’t get off. Well, you can get off but you can’t get off. So the motor money is absolutely awesome. We carry those you can check it out on our website. It’s right there on the front. You can see that that’s when casual means business right on the front of casual toys calm and you know, certainly no slouch. And something else that’s huge for us and has been huge for the last few months. Our first direct relationship which I was really thrilled about was Liberator bedroom adventure. Do

 

Mallory Gordon  14:37

you know how much I love that?

 

Mickey Gordon  14:39

Yeah. And people I think we talked about liberating I think it’s just like wedges and shapes and pillow. There’s so much shit they do they have the the wet blankets.

 

Mallory Gordon  14:48

I forget the name of it, Wesson fascinator Yeah, so

 

Mickey Gordon  14:52

yeah, so much better than a usual wet blanket for squirters too, by the way, because the wet blankets for squirters they’re heavy and they’re they They’re plasticky. They feel that way. The fascinator feels like a regular plush throw blanket. And it’s designed to absorb not just, you know, sweaters, but lube and whatever comes in travel sizes queen size king size. Yeah, it’s awesome. Then who would think that the reader makes that?

 

Mallory Gordon  15:15

Yeah, and it’s easy to wash.

 

Mickey Gordon  15:17

Yeah. and easy to flip stage and all kinds of fun stuff chairs, so make sure you check that out.

 

Mallory Gordon  15:22

Yeah, and I’m really excited about the corsets. Oh, now we have like 3000 Daisy corsets, which I’ve been using Daisy corsets for years, especially with very like theme nights, or even some time when we’re going on a sexy day back when we used to do that, you know, and I pair it with like a cute pair of jeans. Mm hmm. And a leather jacket.

 

Mickey Gordon  15:41

Well, and it’s not just the corsets, right? We do have a buttload of courses from Daisy, but we also added over 1000 costumes. Yeah, so for people going for theme nights on to desire or to heat Oh, yeah, there’s a lot of costumes. They’re just fine for you. And swimwear.

 

Mallory Gordon  15:55

Keno. I didn’t know Daisy made swimwear. I don’t know how I missed that memo. But I do have a few things in our cart. Yeah. I’m just warning you now.

 

Mickey Gordon  16:05

So we got all this stuff going on. That is kind of really where we’ve been spending our time lately is trying to pimp casual toys out to make it easier for you and to give you more choices to make your lifestyle better.

 

Mallory Gordon  16:18

Good job, honey.

 

Mickey Gordon  16:19

I’m pretty happy about it. But enough of all the housekeeping. Let’s talk slet actualization.

 

Mallory Gordon  16:25

Oh, are we just gonna dive right into it?

 

Mickey Gordon  16:27

No, we’re gonna come back a minute, but I think we come back to this. We’re gonna dig into exactly how it is. You’re going to be a porn star and Okay.

 

Mallory Gordon  16:35

Oh, so nervous. It was so nervous. But I’m excited. Okay, you

 

Mickey Gordon  16:40

can do that. You want to tell everybody how to find this. We’ll be back in a hot second.

 

Mallory Gordon  16:43

Yeah, so we’re casual swinger everywhere. Guys. casuals when you’re calm. If you want to reach out it’s podcast that casual swinger.com You can find us on social media, which is Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and YouTube and you were also on the dating sites. That’s double D nation SLS. SDC Cassidy and quicker.

 

Mickey Gordon  16:59

There we go, folks. We’ll be back in a hot second. You’ve been listening to casual swinger. All right, everybody. Welcome back to casual swinger still making. Excellent. So how does it feel to be a sled?

 

Mallory Gordon  17:27

Oh, okay. I’m really nervous to share this. I’m actually I love being a sled. Yeah, like, it’s, it’s some of the most fun in the world for me. And I mean, as of late, we haven’t had a really much of any opportunity to be to be slutty.

 

Mickey Gordon  17:43

No, it’s been pretty quiet.

 

Mallory Gordon  17:45

Right. So I’ve been fantasizing, and we’ve had some conversation around it just not in great depth on on how I can tap into that part of my part of myself. With just you and i right now.

 

Mickey Gordon  17:57

Yeah. And I’ve always asked you about your fantasies, too, right. I mean, there’s there’s constantly been a conversation about that. It’s one of the ways that we entered the lifestyle was talking about fantasy. And, you know, one of the fantasies apparently you’d mentioned to me early on that, you know, you had some fantasies about, you know, taking your love of sex and making it a job. Yeah. Whether it was dancing, Germany, amazing dancer to like dancing, or then you said you even thought about doing porn?

 

Mallory Gordon  18:28

I did, probably way younger than I should have. But it was something like, do you ever, like stop and visualize yourself in that situation? And what that would be like, when I would do that. I was like, Oh, yeah, I could. Yeah, that would totally make me happy. I could totally see myself doing it. And I remember verbalizing it to one of my girlfriends. They’re like, What is wrong with you? I was like, what it looks like a great time. Yeah.

 

Mickey Gordon  18:55

I mean, what was the allure for you? Why did you? Why did you think that? That would be a good idea.

 

Mallory Gordon  19:01

So I think it speaks to a few things. So there’s my you know, exhibition aside, right? I love putting on a show, especially for you. You know that that feeds something for me. And you know, you have a maybe a little bit of avoider thing we kind of have the hot white thing going on. So I think in a lot of ways, it kind of takes all of our kinks and what we we like in the lifestyle and puts them in another situation where we could leverage those kings. Oh,

 

Mickey Gordon  19:32

I think it’s pretty cool idea. I mean,

 

Mallory Gordon  19:34

yeah. So Lately, I’ve been thinking about it. And I’m like, wow, I think I really, really want to do this. Right. You know, is this actually executable? So you did some digging? And it sounds like there’s an opportunity that I could actually have a professionally produced porn done. Like, it could be a thing.

 

Mickey Gordon  19:53

Yeah. Turns out, turns out it’s a possibility. I mean, the idea at least from my perspective, was You know how many hot wife couples are out there and you know stag vixen even cut couples where the guy his fantasy his porn star is his wife? And wouldn’t it be amazing to have a legitimate porn that starred her so well produced, you know, you know, seemed, you know, the whole shebang. But then, you know, ideally it’s she’s not doing this and then you know next thing you know your your father’s watching it on right. Exactly, exactly your video you own it.

 

Mallory Gordon  20:34

Yeah, I mean I love the idea of getting you know, hair and makeup done and having like the right lighting and the right outfit and the right set and the right you know, partner or partners to be able to do this, you know, we’ve talked about like the the fly in the wall, you know, sexual encounter in your home video, which is great. But I think this would really take it up a few notches for me. So and I want to make a few things perfectly clear. This is not for public consumption, not being put out there into the world. This is for private use or just for us. So he in like I said, I think we have this relationship dynamic where it would serve us really well. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I’d be super nervous. But I think it’s one of those things I’ve thought about so much. I can pull the ripcord and jump out of the plane like I can actually do this. Wow. Yeah. And why the hell not? I’m not gonna be as young as I am today. Tomorrow, right. So it’s true. Something I really want to do. I need to push myself to to find a way to get it done. Because why the fuck not? That’s,

 

Mickey Gordon  21:35

I mean, I certainly agree. I mean, obviously is, you know, avoider. I think that that would be really like the coolest Christmas present ever.

 

Mallory Gordon  21:43

Yeah. You would get off on that. That’d be awesome. Yeah. Okay. That’s, that makes me feel a little more comfortable.

 

Mickey Gordon  21:49

Yeah, that would be super cool. Now, I’m curious how this thought, like came to be?

 

Mallory Gordon  21:56

Well, I mean, it’s because for a Mayan, we’ve talked about, you know, the little, you know, hot white video and the fly in the wall. So that’s part of it, tapping into some of my previous fantasies, that’s part of it. And also, I mean, it’s, it’s something to encourage, you know, the deep sexual desires, I still have that kind of feel a little repressed with everything going on in the world. I know, that’s the same old damn song that, you know, everyone’s saying and feeling. So I’m just trying to get creative and how to leverage that in a safe environment. Because I’m also a germaphobe. Yeah, that’s

 

Mickey Gordon  22:29

true. Yeah, definitely.

 

Mallory Gordon  22:31

So it’s not like I’m just I can just go pick up anyone or any group of people and have him do this. That’s, that’s not my ideal.

 

Mickey Gordon  22:38

No, it probably needs to be, you know, the whole testing pool and professional I curated

 

Mallory Gordon  22:43

a real experience. Exactly. Exactly. And I don’t even know like, I guess there’s, there’s platforms or companies that you bring your own deck, or bring your own person. Yeah, there’s a few of those. And then there’s ones that are set up to kind of do the testing pool, where you can go in and and look at, you know, headshots and descriptions and have conversations with people before you get on set to work with them. Yeah.

 

Mickey Gordon  23:13

I mean, you’re basically hiring an actor. Yeah. But I mean, that’s, I mean, it’s not gonna be cheap, I’m sure. Yeah. Yeah, really. I think it’s a really compelling idea and a concept that if it were a real thing, I think he would be busy,

 

Mallory Gordon  23:26

I think, I think so too. And I think this demographic, like the target clientele are are going to be people like me, I don’t see them opening this up to men, because they just want to use it.

 

Mickey Gordon  23:37

Just next, just the prostitute.

 

Mallory Gordon  23:40

I’m sure there’s a lot of like triage of Are you the right client to do this?

 

Mickey Gordon  23:46

Yeah. Well, I think that’s pretty straightforward. Now, I mean, is it still? Is it still shooting porn? If no one ever gets to see it?

 

Mallory Gordon  23:55

You know, that’s a great question. I don’t know. Because in my head, it’s built out just like a really nice porn set would be, you know, I’m thinking like, real production here. And I’m not trying to degrade any other porn out there. But we do see a lot like if I were to go to you know, you porn or get x hamster and you see the professional ones. Some of them are, you know, someone’s studio in their basement. Yeah. And then there’s the ones you can tell this is like a legit set. You know what I mean? And I’m thinking that’s more of the avenue I want to take.

 

Mickey Gordon  24:29

Oh, that makes a lot more sense. I mean, because if you think about when also, I mean, I bet everyone listening to this right now has taken some pictures with their iPhone, some video with their iPhone, blow job or whatever.

 

Mallory Gordon  24:42

It’s great quality. Yeah, I just really want to up the ante if I’m going to do what I want to go balls to the wall. Yeah. So I mean, in my head yet, it’s still it’s still porn. It’s just not. You know, it’s it’s private. It’s private. Right. Well,

 

Mickey Gordon  25:00

So let’s let’s talk about it. We’re gonna dig in. Okay, so you Mallory’s fucked up psyche. Yeah.

 

Mallory Gordon  25:05

Yes, we are. But I want to pose you one question. Oh, knowing what you know, right now, if you could kind of set the scene or give me some parameters for what you think you’d like to see. Do you have any suggestions are

 

Mickey Gordon  25:20

definitely on the spot for that one. Uh, you know, I guess, for me, you obviously being the star of the show is the most important thing, which you know, is I mean, that’s obvious. I definitely would like to see you do MFM I think that would be Oh, okay. Yeah, I think that because it’s something you’ve never done. So it would be your first time would be captured in great detail. Okay. I think that would be pretty cool. If I were like creating my own version of it.

 

Mallory Gordon  25:54

All right. That’s, that’s funny. And I’m glad you said that because I’m going to get into the details. But what I found myself is setting storylines. Oh, yeah. Like a fucking movie. Like I’m, it was it was so funny to look back at the first round of notes that I did. Because it was like, this is in fuckin lifetime or Hallmark Channel. Like I don’t need all this background.

 

Mickey Gordon  26:20

Yeah, no. Writing like background, so the character

 

Mallory Gordon  26:24

Oh, here we go. Okay, so I’m going to I have to flip to my other notes, but you are just gonna lose your shit.

 

Mickey Gordon  26:31

I can’t wait. Also another one that I think would be cool. By the way if we were going to do one because I’m just spit is maybe like the the milk next door? Oh, like that would be a fun one buddy. neighbor. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, you know, and that would, you know, it’s maybe your partner is a little younger. And, you know, it’s, I would fit into MFM to, you know, pull boy mo in the line, you know, whatever, that kind of thing.

 

Mallory Gordon  26:57

Oh, I see. You’re gonna, I think you’re gonna be really good at this. And I think I need help. And here’s why.

 

Mickey Gordon  27:04

All right, let’s hear so your perverted storyline that you wrote for your board.

 

Mallory Gordon  27:08

Alright, we’re gonna start with the one that’s gonna make you laugh the most. Okay, okay, but it this is a fantasy of mine. But this is where I went off the deep end and got way too worried about the details and it’s almost like sex didn’t happen. Which is kind of the whole point we had pizza. So it’s like a damsel in distress. That’s a good way to describe it. So I have a thing with firefighters and and cops and military like first responders and civil servant trees. So in my head it was like um, you know, I used to fantasize about what if my apartment caught on fire? Or there was a fire somewhere Not that I want to set the fire I’m not that kind of person. I can see the

 

Mickey Gordon  27:47

studio not liking and

 

Mallory Gordon  27:49

i know i know that like yeah, fire bad fire really, really bad. But like this, this sexy firefighter in full fucking gear comes in to rescue me. Right? So in my notes here, you know maybe I’ve just showered so I’m already like wet and naked and and they’re coming in to save me but we get blockaded in like something collapses in the hallway after a you know, breaks into my apartment or, and then we’re both stuck there. There’s a gap in how we don’t die during the fire.

 

Mickey Gordon  28:22

Sorry, their disbelief.

 

Mallory Gordon  28:25

But you know, having this dialogue about Oh no, I’m so cold and he has to get naked and then I’m hot. And then somehow we end up having sex. But the notes kind of go down like more of a central like forbidden fruit damsel in distress kind of Central love. It’s a it was barely a softcore porn. So

 

Mickey Gordon  28:49

I need to fill in the last wish anything.

 

Mallory Gordon  28:51

Yes.

 

Mickey Gordon  28:51

So we’re gonna die here.

 

Mallory Gordon  28:52

My last my last note is talk to someone who could help me fuck a firefighter in a porno. Because that whole like dialogue didn’t happen. Like in my head. It’s hot. But I don’t know how to build out the scene. So I scrapped that one. I was like, Alright, what else can we do? Let’s let’s make it a little easier. You had mentioned you know, the sledding neighbor, I went right to I’m going to be an escort. Oh, wow. Just go ahead and own it. And here’s what I like about this one. There’s a certain level of confidence you have to have as a sex worker, right? It also exudes that you have an immense amount of experience, obviously, you’re going to be very good at your job. And I kind of like that I have no problem taking control, or being the more dominant in the situation, but it’s not my style on a normal basis. So I would love to put up a scenario where maybe, you know, it’s it’s, I have one date, or it’s like a bachelor party situation, which I know you’re looking at me like huh, we just talked about MFM I’m like Why not up to me one night? why not three or four?

 

Mickey Gordon  30:02

Why not? That’s Yeah, yeah. gangbang territory. Yeah.

 

Mallory Gordon  30:06

And it actually opened up my mind a little more and going, Okay, what kind of scenarios? Am I the one that, you know? makes them feel more comfortable? Are they nervous? Or do I just walk in there and literally take them all by, you know, the shirts and throw them down and have my way with all of them? Oh, wow. Yeah.

 

Mickey Gordon  30:26

Yeah. So

 

Mallory Gordon  30:27

totally out of my character

 

Mickey Gordon  30:28

is it’s really at your cat grooming gaming is where your character anyway. Yes, so that would definitely be fantasy territory for you.

 

Mallory Gordon  30:34

Yes. Yeah. But I’m not gonna lie. I’m getting a little tingly thinking all these like nice sticks just hanging out waiting for me. But I had to go back and I watched a couple porns that had primary female with three, four or five guys. And the one thing I did notice is like player four or five, sometimes we’re like, waiting in the background. Like, the old like ninja movies like the circles, the fight circles, where they’re waiting in the background, like further turn, and I’m like, you know, it seems awkward that they’re not in there kicking ass too. Yeah. Right. So like, logistically, I still got to work that out. But I kind of like it’s super obvious. It’s not as creative. But it got my brain in the right mentality, I think to dig a little deeper, deeper, because it wasn’t even in the previous one. My Lifetime movie. No point of view, no positions, you know, I couldn’t really dig into it. So I think it tapped into more of a central emotional part of my brain where this one is, like, super slept part of my brain.

 

Mickey Gordon  31:39

Yeah. I mean, that’s definitely they’re very raunchy. Yeah. Which is awesome. I mean, I think it would be a lot of fun. And I think you probably very much enjoy it. Yeah. So you, like the people?

 

Mallory Gordon  31:50

Yeah. And, and the other side of that, I was thinking, you know, there’s different scenes, depending on how the porn is, you know, produced and formulated, there’s usually more than one theme. So there’s, there’s an opportunity to tie in other dialogue to do something, you know, else that attaches to it. Does that make sense? So, the the sex with the group happens, and maybe, you know, somebody’s still hungry. I don’t know. I don’t know how to tie it in. But I think that there’s an opportunity there. Do you have any ideas around that one? Well actually take you know,

 

Mickey Gordon  32:22

what might actually might actually be a really neat kind of theme to the whole video itself. is like, maybe you went away for a weekend vacation from home? Uh huh. And when you went away for your weekend vacation, this was your journey of your weekend. Right? So like, what? chapter Yes, with

 

Mallory Gordon  32:41

different event?

 

Mickey Gordon  32:42

Exactly. Oh, you’re so good at this. And then you come back at the end of the end, the end of the video is you like walking back into the house. Hi, honey. I’m home. Yeah, like, it’s just like a complete. You were supposed to go do one thing. And this is what That’s funny.

 

Mallory Gordon  32:54

You said that because of the one that I had after like the bachelor party or being a sex worker. Part of the conversation was, even though we’d be an actor, walking through the steps of what it’s like to come back as a hot wife. Oh, yeah. And but with somebody else, that’s not you.

 

Mickey Gordon  33:12

Oh, that would be super fun.

 

Mallory Gordon  33:14

Kind of a little bit of a mindfuck is like is that little like Inception porn? A little bit? A lot. Oh, okay. Yeah, it’s

 

Mickey Gordon  33:19

a dense layer. That’s really crazy. So basically, you’d be coming back as a hot wife, but you wouldn’t be coming back to me. Yeah, that would be really crazy.

 

Mallory Gordon  33:30

Yeah, that’s really odd. Would you be interested? Okay, it’s so one on one. But again, my mind got to thinking about like, the different positions, you know, I love being on top. And there’s something about the view you get when a girl is on top, but she’s kind of lean, lean forward, not lame, like right on his chest. But just like that slow motion and then the rabbit fucking from the bottom started. Like, I need to go masturbate. Anyway, anyone wonders what my search for when I look at porn. Hmm, there you go. That’s a good one. That’s a bitch folks. So and I did I did a couple standard ones. Like, I’m not like the the teacher school girl thing. But the professor I’ve always had a thing or fantasy about professors and like the silver foxes? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And in my head, that’s more of a maybe a little more bondage and impact play. Like, you know, I need a better grade or whatever. The storylines a little relevant is anyone care? No, I don’t think so. But I went right to being bent over like a mahogany desk. You know, my my pants are pulled down or my skirts pulled up. And you know, my hands are being bonded. And you know, I i’ve been bad and so I need a few spankings. Oh, yeah, yeah. And a little denial. Yeah, that one got really twisted really fast.

 

Mickey Gordon  34:53

Now those are awesome though. I mean, and that you know it The funny thing is, I know before we recorded this and by the way, guys, this is the First time I’m hearing any of that, just you guys.

 

Mallory Gordon  35:02

Oh, yeah, we didn’t preface that. So I’ve been keeping this online under lock and key because I mean, this is weeks in the making of these these ideas. Yeah. And I didn’t want to spoil them. I really wanted your honest opinion now and honest reactions, because like, some of the stuff I wrote down is kind of ridiculous. Like, I get shipwrecked like Gilligan and I end up on a deserted island with a tribe of like lesbians who just have their way with me. Okay, it’s not executable, but I

 

Mickey Gordon  35:32

was like, That sounds like fun. hooligans Island. Yeah, great hooligans, hooligans? I don’t know. And yeah, so you know, you said some of them are out there, and probably not doable in that, that’s probably hard to do, because it’s a completely different set than the other sets that you were looking at. It really is. And I think maybe I’m working it backwards. I’m

 

Mallory Gordon  35:55

looking at the storyline, his situation where I did better when I framed it out and go, how many partners? And what does that scenario look like to me, right? And then kind of building it out from there, and then putting the creative move on it. Because maybe starting even with some of the POV, like, what do I want to see on the screen sexually? Like, how many positions? Can they eat my position? And how many positions because I suck dick in? And I mean, that sounds really raunchy, and maybe a little degrading. I don’t mean it that way. But I’m trying to figure out how to maximize and get the most benefit out of this, because I really do want to move forward with it. Yeah, it’s it’s a thing.

 

Mickey Gordon  36:39

And I think it’s, I mean, I, I’ve thought it was a great idea. I mean, I floated it to you, like a year ago? Wouldn’t this be neat? If this existed? Yeah. And then it’s gone downhill from there.

 

Mallory Gordon  36:49

I’ve been thinking about it ever since, like, what if it could? And and how does that look? Yeah.

 

Mickey Gordon  36:55

Well, and again, it it looks like it’s, it’s a real possibility at this point. So I think you’re building scripts is probably a good thing.

 

Mallory Gordon  37:04

to point to point I need to stop with like, the the cerebral stuff and get my head out of there. You know, like, again, you don’t want to watch the Lifetime movie version of my Bourne? No.

 

37:17

Definitely not. You know,

 

Mickey Gordon  37:19

tell me about your feelings. Yeah. That’s funny. I, you know, the interesting thing, I guess, is from your perspective, as, as a wife, and a partner, and hallway, and all those things, you know, How real is the possibility? Do you think you could just completely immerse yourself in that for a day? And? I mean, is that something that turns you on to think about?

 

Mallory Gordon  37:47

It does, I know myself, so there will be reservations and, and obviously, nervousness. But thankfully, I have honed in an ability to kind of turn it on, like, it’s game time and Showtime. And I allow myself to be present. It’s me 10 years ago, probably couldn’t have done that, oh, couldn’t have tapped, I would have gotten way too lost in self doubt and self consciousness and hesitation, you know? I think I can, but I don’t know that I can do it with the one set. Like, here’s the other thing I thought about, would I be able to do this knowing you’re not in the room? And would that be better? And I think, yeah, I think it actually be better because I don’t want you to look behind the curtain. Yeah, you know, I kind of want to do this. And for me, but part of the benefit is gonna be watching you watch it for the first time or hearing about you watching it for the first time. But I don’t know that I want you far away either. I don’t want to fly halfway across the country and be like, see you later. I’ll let you know how it goes when I get back. I mean, because I think having knowing that you’re around or there would put me at ease. Oh, cuz you’re my person. Oh, yeah. You’re my whoopee.

 

Mickey Gordon  39:09

Well, yeah. And I mean, ideally, I mean, depending on where these things go down. There’s three usually somewhere kind of fun. Right? Vegas, California. That’s South Florida.

 

Mallory Gordon  39:18

Yeah. Make a whole weekend of it.

 

Mickey Gordon  39:20

When on how great you can sit down.

 

Mallory Gordon  39:22

I was gonna say he made me to give me one of those little scooters with the doughnuts. be on standby with a couple frozen bag apiece? I don’t know.

 

Mickey Gordon  39:31

Right. It depends on how well yeah, and goes. Yeah, so a lot of video that we see a lot of certainly porn that we see out there. Always ends and you know, the girl on her knees and just getting come over her face.

 

Mallory Gordon  39:43

A lot of them do. Yeah. Yeah. I don’t know. That’s how I want to I don’t know.

 

Mickey Gordon  39:46

Yeah. So my question is, is that does that turn you on to end your scenes that way? How would it turn you on to end your scenes? Oh, right. What are the different ways because I mean, we’re talking about several scenes here. It sounds like

 

Mallory Gordon  39:59

and A perfect world in which I don’t think is going to be the situation here. It really depends on how it’s set up. You know, I’d love the cream pie, I guess. Yeah, yeah, that’s probably my preferred. Yeah. I don’t mind, you know, the whole coming in the face, but I think, um, I don’t know, I don’t think that does anything for you either. Like, I don’t mind it. And it’ll probably be part of it. Because I, there’s parts of me that enjoy it a little bit. But it’s like, the end of the night at Disney and you watch all the fireworks? Right? Like

 

Mickey Gordon  40:36

fireworks but liquid?

 

Mallory Gordon  40:38

Yeah, I don’t know. I don’t know. That’s how I wanted to end. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that’s

 

Mickey Gordon  40:43

Yeah, I mean, I think well, and I think that kind of goes back to the whole thing. If you’re shooting a legit video, it’s not like lifestyle at that point, lifestyle. It’s, you know, safety first and all that stuff. And if you’re shooting the legit video, and you’re you’re choosing your partner, very specific testing and all that stuff. I mean, I suppose that makes that a lot more viable. But, I mean, it’s, again, a one shot deal, pardon the pun. But what I mean, what are your like, if you let’s say that they came back and said you can shoot two scenes? What would your top two be?

 

Mallory Gordon  41:14

Well, that’s gonna be hard. Because when I think it needs to be executable, actually, like the MFM. Like, suggestion you had, yeah. Because I kind of work that in, which is how the, the, the sex worker Lady of the night came to be. And it started with two and I was like, fuck it. If I’m gonna go for two minutes, we’ll do four or five. possible, it’s probably going to cost me my retirement fund. A lot of actors. Why not? You only live once. That’s true. I think I like the MFM. But no, I love my girls. So I would love to work having not just a like, primary girl on girl play, I want that to be part of the dynamic, you know, to be fucked, and to fuck another girl, or at least have some interaction because I love my ladies, but maybe not have that be the primary role. I’d like to work that in just for my own personal benefit, but I wouldn’t be unhappy if it’s just me and another male actor or meeting, you know, MFM scenario. You know, maybe there’s a muse in there somewhere. Like, you know, the the cute neighbor, girl, you know, watching and helping to facilitate and fluff. I don’t know. Okay, but I’m, I don’t know how to eloquently add in. Check, play. I mean, yeah.

 

Mickey Gordon  42:33

Oh, that’s so any other like, I mean, if if you’re going through and you’re picking, I mean, first of all, I mean, is there a size requirement? Are you going to go big? You’re gonna go smaller.

 

Mallory Gordon  42:44

Oh, I’m Goldilocks all the way. Yeah, yeah. Not too big. Not too small. Just right.

 

Mickey Gordon  42:49

Yeah, Goldilocks boring. Yeah. Alright, so now we’re gonna do like the Three Bears, and they’re gonna be one of your son. Here’s

 

Mallory Gordon  42:55

the other thing. I don’t know if I went including or not. That was my next question. Yeah.

 

Mickey Gordon  43:00

Is

 

Mallory Gordon  43:01

because size will matter. And that. You know, and I would love to do dp. Yeah, but I’ll be perfectly honest, I haven’t done it yet. Because I’ve been really scared. Yeah, I’ve been terrified to do dp. And it sounds like when I masturbate, I think about it. It sounds really good. But I’m just, I get too nervous. Even if the opportunity arises, and I want to execute. I don’t know what it is. I don’t know what I think’s gonna happen, or why I stopped myself. Maybe I need to talk to my therapist about that.

 

Mickey Gordon  43:35

You have therapists. Yeah.

 

43:37

I mean, it’s the dog. But no, honestly, none

 

Mickey Gordon  43:41

of that really sounds doable. Yeah. I mean, if you’re doing MFM I’m probably gonna end up doing

 

Mallory Gordon  43:46

is I kind of want to two penises in my mouth at the same time that Yeah, that’s great. Just you haven’t done that either. One time,

 

Mickey Gordon  43:54

did you? Yeah,

 

Mallory Gordon  43:56

we think we were getting drunk. I was like, this is the best ever.

 

Mickey Gordon  44:01

That’s awesome. Good for you. You

 

Mallory Gordon  44:02

probably didn’t sound like that. Because obviously I had to dig through my mouth.

 

Mickey Gordon  44:05

Yeah. check you out. Yeah. I am stunned. I think that it’s, it is a very doable thing. And I think for hot wave couples against ag vixen couples, they’re probably going to go crazy for it. Yeah. I mean, it’s really legitimately a opportunity to create something that lasts a really long time. It’s not just some, you know, cheesy amateur video. And

 

Mallory Gordon  44:31

that’s true. Because my other concern was okay, if we do this, privacy is a big thing with us. Like I said, I don’t I don’t want this to be on the ether. I don’t want like my, you know, my family or my brothers or something to find this and be like, Oh my God, that’s my sister. Yeah.

 

Mickey Gordon  44:47

He’s awesome.

 

Mallory Gordon  44:48

Yeah. Who? Willis? The whole privacy like proof of destruction. Like is that was that a thing we were all these other questions came into play and like you Is that I think it is executable. There’s that sounds like there’s something developing in our area. Even. Yeah, we could potentially it’s

 

Mickey Gordon  45:09

and you know, I think the hardest part for any of this is where does your partner or partners for this come from? Because you see a lot of people I mean, there was, I think, Kate and Darrell had somebody on in Australia, whose whole thing was setting up gang bangs, like you actually paid the guy to go out and interview people and have them on site. And that’s a service in Australia, that’s awesome. It’s awesome that somebody does that. But in you know, when it comes to this, the whole idea is, if you’re a porn star for a month, you join the testing pool, you get tested regularly, weekly. And now you’re in the testing pool after a certain period of time, and now you have, you know, effectively, you know, agents, actors to choose from, and wait, you know, I guess the whole way the whole thing works is you’re not paying them to, you know, have sex, you’re paying them for the rights to the video. Gotcha. And that’s they come in, you know,

 

Mallory Gordon  46:06

okay then so cuz the sex work laws and yeah, exactly, yeah, I

 

Mickey Gordon  46:09

get what you’re saying prostitution is

 

Mallory Gordon  46:11

the other thing I was thinking about. I was like, okay, obviously, there’s an interview process that has to happen, because it’s not like, like, you just hire them. And they show up in the set same day and like, Alright, let’s bang it out.

 

Mickey Gordon  46:20

Yeah. Well, I mean, for some people, it probably works out though.

 

Mallory Gordon  46:22

Yeah. Okay. That’s, that’s, that’s fair. But I kind of want them to be cool with me to, like, you know, I kind of want them to want to fuck me. Yeah. Well,

 

Mickey Gordon  46:33

I don’t think it’d be a problem. Like, like, we

 

Mallory Gordon  46:35

don’t have to be best friends forever, you know, but I kind of want to know.

 

Mickey Gordon  46:42

Yeah, I don’t think that’s too much of an issue. But it really does seem like it’s something that could actually happen. You know, what do you think that something like that’s worth financially? Um,

 

Mallory Gordon  46:56

what would I value or pay for it? Or what do you think the market? Well,

 

Mickey Gordon  47:00

you’re paid for it? I mean, I think that the companies that shoot it have an expectation of revenue, especially if they’re doing a good job. And what that expectation, I

 

Mallory Gordon  47:08

don’t know, like, if I just had to spit ball. I mean, it’s not gonna be cheap. No, it’s definitely not five to seven grand, maybe grand,

 

Mickey Gordon  47:18

I think and probably somewhere in there, depending

 

Mallory Gordon  47:20

on how, like, how much goes into it. And and that could be totally undervalued for all I know, depending on, you know, equipment and you know, where the set is filmed, and how many actors and everything else and what I what do I need to bring to the table? Is it all inclusive? Where like hair and makeup, you know, outfits lingerie, which will probably won’t be much. Maybe I don’t know, what do I bring all that myself? I don’t know. You know, we

 

Mickey Gordon  47:48

sell laundry, that’s not going to be a problem.

 

Mallory Gordon  47:51

Excellent point.

 

Mickey Gordon  47:53

That’s awesome. So a slight actualization you have,

 

Mallory Gordon  47:57

I’m getting there. And there’s more to come. This is developing. So I’d be happy to come back, you know, in a month or two and just do a little, like, update on where we’re at with this. Yeah.

 

Mickey Gordon  48:06

How do you feel about that? I’m fine with it. Yeah, I think it’s really neat. I think it’s a cool idea. I don’t think it’s for everybody. No,

 

Mallory Gordon  48:13

no, definitely not for everybody. And again, I’m super nervous about sharing this because I don’t know how people are gonna take it

 

Mickey Gordon  48:19

out. It’s a fantasy right now. And I think that the only way that this sort of thing happens is with a certificate of destruction that you know, the studio whenever it’s shot. Yeah, once it’s handed over to you, it’s destroyed. It doesn’t exist anymore. I agree. I think those kinds of things are gonna go a long way to giving people the the security in this in the satisfaction of knowing that their personal most private date. I mean, this is more private than your social security number. You don’t want this getting yeah.

 

Mallory Gordon  48:45

Oh, yeah, that’s my, my butthole

 

Mickey Gordon  48:50

budget, but to know that you’re able to make that leap and have that fantasy and then experience it. Rocket, then yeah, I’m

 

Mallory Gordon  48:58

inside I actually am really excited about it. Like if this could happen, I want it to and so finding a way to put forth the money you know, if I was going to improve myself personally by going back to school or hell even getting a boob job, would I invested that much money in that? My my answer is yes. So why would I devalue this fantasy? Or this desire? any less? Now? I’m gonna get fucking flame basted for comparing making my own porn to going back to school. But I don’t think so. I

 

Mickey Gordon  49:27

think yeah, I think the sentiment is there. Okay. You know, it’s it’s investing in yourself investing and being able to tell yourself that this was a fantasy that you had since being a kid and you found a way to experience it without sacrificing or compromising, you know, your job your life your you know, everything didn’t because you know, porn has a stigma, right when it gets out there. Oh, yeah. And it makes it harder for these these ladies to get a job and harder for them to be socially accepted in their communities.

 

Mallory Gordon  49:57

I think it’s come a long way but it’s not there.

 

Mickey Gordon  50:00

Tonight, it’s still taboo. But the fantasy of being a porn star for a day. I bet there are a lot of women out there that haven’t I bet there’s a lot of guys oh

 

Mallory Gordon  50:08

my god, oh my god, I just like thinking about it. Like, I, if they could make me look half as good. Yeah, you know, with the lighting and the sets and the hair, and, you know, all of that stuff and teaching me how to position myself. So, because I could use that down the road if I if I’m, you know, hooking up with like a single dude. Yeah. And I remember, oh, this angle looked really good. And based on the camera position, which is not something you want to, you know, be in your mind the whole time you’re having sex with them, but like to have a little bit of wear with all to really get that that good angle. You know, though, it’s an investment long term as well.

 

Mickey Gordon  50:46

Yeah, it is. Yeah. Cuz it’s, you know, kind of points you in that direction. And, I mean, you probably learn a lot in the course of doing that about lighting. Right? Yeah. Positions work.

 

Mallory Gordon  50:55

I’m so naive to it, honestly.

 

Mickey Gordon  50:58

Right. It’s really, really, really cool. Now, I guess one last question, and then we’ll bounce out of here and come back. I think we’ve got some new toys to talk about here at the end. Okay. But do you think you’d come would you get off doing it? Hmm.

 

Mallory Gordon  51:16

I think the first one is going to be the most challenging and then once that goes then yeah, it’ll it’ll follow. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. As long as I immerse myself in the experience, I don’t think I’ll have a problem having

 

Mickey Gordon  51:29

the waterfall starts.

 

Mallory Gordon  51:31

It may be kind of habitual, like, and that’s the other thing like how do I just come anytime I want or do we have to set the scene to kind of Alright, now do this position and when you can come come? Like I

 

Mickey Gordon  51:43

don’t know. I don’t know how that works. That’s on your director. Yeah, I won’t be there. I can’t tell you. I don’t know. Well, I guess this is it. This is slot actualization. It’s you know Mallory’s impression and her thoughts on her first porno. Hopefully, you guys enjoyed it. I’m extremely hard. I’m extremely interested in this.

 

Mallory Gordon  52:04

Are you around? Oh, we

 

Mickey Gordon  52:05

have very much. Yeah, that’s, that’s, that’s hot. You’re a twisted twisted girl. Sometimes you are, you want to tell everybody how to find us. We’ll come back in a minute with a couple of pieces of new information on a couple of new toys that just showed up here in the casual swinger studio. Orlando, Florida.

 

Mallory Gordon  52:21

All right, we’re casual swinger everywhere find is a casual swinger.com. Or you can reach us at podcast at casual swinger.com Hey, if you love us and want to see something nice, feel free to find us on iTunes and leave a review. You can also find us on social media. That’s Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and YouTube and love us want to datas that is double diggnation, SLS STC. Cassidy and quipper.

 

Mickey Gordon  52:45

That’ll do it. We’ll be back just after this. You’ve been listening to casually spinner. And we’re back. AR back and we’re gonna talk toy box, which is something that we talked about more obviously, since he started the Toy Story. It’s always been called Mallory’s toy box. But today, it’s our toy box. Yeah,

 

Mallory Gordon  53:19

I mean, guys need equal opportunity. Right? We do. Yeah. And you

 

Mickey Gordon  53:22

know, some of this comes from, we did some work with the Joneses. And we got a thing for their guys group. And it was so great. Just being a part of that experience, and talking to the guys and talking about male sex toys, and just having an open conversation, which I’m so glad you guys are doing why it was it was an honor to be invited. They have such a great community that we got to thing. And it was really cool for them to invite me and let me talk guy sex toys. But the toy that we’re going to talk about today on the guy side is is not something we talked about when we did that thing. Now I think

 

Mallory Gordon  53:56

it’s actually really interesting. So what do you have in your hand right now what is it called?

 

Mickey Gordon  54:00

This is called the ion and it’s by arc wave. So arc wave is a wild tech company and wild tech is brought us you know, hits like womanizer and the we vibe, which you know, they make a lot of what we call pressure toys. So some people call them suction toys, that is a misnomer. These are pressure air technologies. Matter of fact, the trademark term for it is pleasure air. And the pleasure air technology is very similar to the technology that’s in the womanizer. This is a stroker that you pull over your penis and it it’s it’s called silencer technology. So what happens is it doesn’t make any noise until you put something in it.

 

Mallory Gordon  54:41

Okay, so like my womanizer premium, like I when I put pressure on it, that’s when even if it’s on, it doesn’t start vibrating or doing its thing until it touches my skin and I put pressure on it exactly. Okay.

 

Mickey Gordon  54:51

And the whole idea of the arc wave is basically to give a male an orgasm that’s very similar to A female orgasm. And it’s done by sending seismic shockwaves through your penis basically. And so it stimulates different nerves entirely than a traditional stroker.

 

Mallory Gordon  55:11

I was gonna say because the stroke is based on friction and pressure of itself in a in a, you know, either twist up and down kind of motion exactly is way different.

 

Mickey Gordon  55:22

Yep. And this is entirely entirely designed to stimulate the nerves in your frenulum which is the underside of your dick. Just

 

Mallory Gordon  55:30

look at you get no like medical and technical over there.

 

Mickey Gordon  55:33

Yeah, right. And I think the thing that really stood out to me about this toy when I first took it out of the box, first of all the box was super high end, it was like opening an Apple product. I

 

Mallory Gordon  55:42

love that about wild tech, they do a great job not just with boxing, but like with, with just the quality in general. Yeah,

 

Mickey Gordon  55:48

I felt like I was about to have a premium experience when I opened it, okay, which I really liked. But then when I put my hands on it, I realize that this silicone that this is made of doesn’t feel like any silicone I’ve ever used. But really what’s different about it soft and stretchy, but still provides resist resistance. So I

 

Mallory Gordon  56:03

was gonna say it feels like it’s I don’t want to call it stiffer, because it does have flexibility in there, which you need if you’re going to you know, squeeze it over your cock.

 

Mickey Gordon  56:12

Sure, but it definitely felt good. I mean it. It’s just like, I mean, it’s a regular stroker if you want it to be you can jerk off with it.

 

Mallory Gordon  56:19

Now what I like about that this is kind of something we’ve noticed with other toys reviews for you, because you’re a little bit longer that things open ended. It is so yeah, so that you can put, you know, you can place it as far down as the base of your penis if you want to.

 

Mickey Gordon  56:34

Yeah, and well another thing that I like about it, the sides are affirmer silicone, and the top is a stretchy or silicone, which means for guys that are a little bit thicker like I am, I can actually

 

Mallory Gordon  56:44

Oh, so that’s where the gifts so it actually is up here. Yeah, so it’s it’s two different maybe compounds.

 

Mickey Gordon  56:49

Yes, I guess so that it stretches at that top part versus at the sides, the sides still give you pressure as well as the bottom. And trust while I only played with it for a minute, it definitely has a really unique sensation. And it’s kind of meant to just kind of put it on and hold it there to really get the maximum benefit out of it, but she can masturbate with it. It’s really, really easy to clean too. And I really like that. So Oh, it’s two pieces, two pieces, the silicone part that you put your penis in pops off, and you can just you can wash it and throw it in the dishwasher, whatever you want to do with it. It’s very safe and very hygenic in that regard. And all of the electrical bits stay away from the water and they’re over here is not a waterproof toy. But it is a really unique design. It is called the arc wave by ion we do carry it on casual toys. I do think this is a recommend. I think that for people that have a very sensitive frenulum area, they are going to love this toy.

 

Mallory Gordon  57:44

Now. Where’s the frenulum? Because I want to be friends with it.

 

Mickey Gordon  57:46

It’s under the head of the penis. Okay, so that’s that’s the area that you like licking so

 

Mallory Gordon  57:51

yes, that’s the it’s when I when I give it advice. I’m giving you a blowjob. I’m like this is where he’s most sensitive. And it’s that like one and a half inch by one inch patch. Under the beard deck on the bottom side. Exactly where

 

Mickey Gordon  58:03

this sits. Yeah,

 

Mallory Gordon  58:04

yeah, that’s really fucking neat. And it does it. It does look like you said, a premium toy.

 

Mickey Gordon  58:09

Yeah, it is a very premium toy. But speaking of premium toys, you have a premium piece of metal.

 

Mallory Gordon  58:15

So I have the doxy one, this is the r three, three r three r okay. I’m dyslexic. My apologies. And there, we’ve been seeing a lot of good reviews and feedback on it. Um, this is made in the UK. Yes. And we do carry it on our store. And this is the rechargeable version. So it’s got a little port on the bottom, USB charger. So it’s pretty easy. You know, I think it came with a charge. I did charge it for a little bit, but I used it two three times yesterday. Yeah. And it did a great job. Like you said the packaging was really nice. It’s about, I don’t know, maybe just a little more than half the size of my Hitachi magic wand. Yes. So it’s not I wouldn’t call it compact or Mini. It’s probably closer to a standard size but not as large. So what’s cool about this is it’s got 9000 RPM, the motor provides as far as the stimulation, so it’s actually stronger than my Hitachi magic one, which plugs into the wall. I don’t have the rechargeable version of that one. And when it came to the packaging, it was this like badass aluminum silver tube that looked futuristic. I was like holy shit. So the bottom like unscrewed, and that’s where the cable cord was. And then you unscrew the top and then the one slides out. So this one’s in matte black. They do have another version that’s like a an aluminum or

 

Mickey Gordon  59:37

they have a blue and a red. But the matte black was kind of a special edition.

 

Mallory Gordon  59:41

Yes. So um, so a couple of things. So the head it’s like a high quality silicone, but it’s not it’s it’s pretty stiff, which I actually like if if you look at my one collection, and the ones I use most frequently tend to have a stiffer head. The neck is actually pretty stiff too, which I also like, because if they’re too loose, they give too much bend, and then you lose control over where you’re applying pressure, right. And if you’re applying light pressure, the silicone even though it’s stiff, it’s got a very, very soft feel have already read my finger over it. So if I’m just doing some teasing motions down there, it doesn’t feel abrasive. And I don’t have to put a lot of pressure on there in order to feel it. So it’s, it’s really, really great. I wouldn’t call it a quiet toy, per se, it’s not silent, but it’s not, you know, my magic wand probably makes more noise in this new Act. I know. So I’m going to turn it on and it starts. This one’s a little different. It starts at like medium, and sort of lower high. Okay, because some of my toys, I have to remind myself will start on high, so don’t like turn it on and then put it on my fuzzy. And it’s just like a light pressure. Turn it on. But you can hear that the motors. Yeah, it’s actually really, really cool. And what I love, it’s only three buttons plus minus and power. So the power, it’s a very, very light touch to it to turn it on and off or to change the settings.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:01:15

It seems to me that it’s quieter than your Hitachi. Oh,

 

Mallory Gordon  1:01:18

yeah, I definitely think it’s quieter than my head. I was gonna turn it on before we started recording to confirm, but I think you’re right. No, it’s it’s definitely quite quiet. It’s

 

Mickey Gordon  1:01:27

about half the size it looks

 

Mallory Gordon  1:01:28

it is. So again, I wouldn’t call it necessarily compact, but it’s definitely more ergonomical. Right, because it doesn’t have that long stretch of the the body where the motor is compared to where the head of it is. So it’s a lot easier to use. I think we could probably use this and play together which after talking dirty to you earlier that’s on the docket. But the only thing that I found a little bit different is I could definitely feel the vibration in my hand when I use it. So that’s that’s a little bit different. A lot of my other toys, I guess maybe it’s because the motor so strong and where it’s located in the toy.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:02:03

It’s also a fully metal toys.

 

Mallory Gordon  1:02:05

It is it’s fully metal.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:02:07

So it makes it can’t break this. Yeah, it weighs 1.4 pounds. So it’s a little heavier. It’s not for the faint of heart. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it’s it’s definitely a little weighty. And it’s expensive. This is a premium toy. So our costs on this one is $209 on the store. And that’s

 

Mallory Gordon  1:02:22

about what the womanizer cost. Yeah.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:02:24

Well, the arc wave is $199. So what we talked about here today are two very premium toys they are, but what are your thoughts on it? Do you like it?

 

Mallory Gordon  1:02:32

I do. I’m getting I’m getting used to it because the motor is so strong, the vibration, and the sensation that I get is a little bit different. Right? Because it’s moving faster and that faster movement. You know, my strongest one will was so far has been the Leela one. And the Hitachi. And the Lilo again, doesn’t spin as fast as this one. But I actually really like it. I’m a medium to high girl when I’m masturbating with these ones. This one’s probably low. Like I didn’t get past medium yesterday.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:03:10

Yeah, it’s just got so if you’re a horsepower girl, this is one for you. And

 

Mallory Gordon  1:03:13

I tried it both. I had panties on. So I tried it under my underwear. Because I mean, this was quick and dirty. I just wanted to test it out. And then overmanned air because sometimes having that additional layer even though it’s thin, kind of separates and disperses out some of the sensation and I’m a dirty horse sometimes I like to masturbate with my clothes on. Yeah, I’m just saying

 

Mickey Gordon  1:03:35

well, it’s the high massager thing to write that massager was a close on. Yes, exactly. So well there you go. So two new toys that are in casual toys right now. Once for the guys it’s called the arquivo ion and that ion is for sale in available for purchase right now on casual toys calm and the doxie three are in the three matte black. Now both of those are rechargeable ones. Yes, that’s what the R signifies is that it’s rechargeable. So last question for you Mallory before we get the hell out of here. Does rechargeable hurt that thing at all? I mean is powerful is everything.

 

Mallory Gordon  1:04:09

It is literally the most powerful tool. I have Pirjo

 

Mickey Gordon  1:04:12

Yeah, well minus the murder bunny murder, but uh, yeah, that’s true.

 

Mallory Gordon  1:04:17

Don’t kick that motherfucker up to 11 last year prepared. Yeah, right experts. Oh

 

Mickey Gordon  1:04:21

my god. Yeah. That’s crazy. All right. Well, this has been an episode on slept actualization. We threw some sex toys in at the end. We’re gonna miss all of our friends. If anybody’s going in February Rachel’s rascals will make sure to get back to us. If you’re interested in going in November. That’s going to be one hell of a party after the year we had in 2020. And it’s cousin 2021 is shaping up to be a shit show too. Don’t say that. Let’s think positive. Think positive. Now he will survive. guys. Thanks for listening. All right. You’ve been listening to casuals

 

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