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Talk Kinky To me – Celebrating International Womens Day with…

Thu, 9/2 10:24AM • 1:04:45

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Nookie Dating Kinky, Mickey Gordon, Mallory Gordon

 

Mallory Gordon  00:08

Welcome to casual swinger. If you’re under 18, the following podcast is not appropriate for you. The subjects and language are for mature audiences only. If you’re not mature in nature, just make sure you’re old enough to vote. We don’t take ourselves seriously ever. no guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of any opinions or statements made on this podcast or website or a blog. It’s all in fun, folks. This isn’t Dr. Phil. Now consider yourself the listener properly advised.

 

Mickey Gordon  00:35

everybody welcome back for another episode of casual swinger. My name is Mickey.

 

Mallory Gordon  00:56

And I’m Mallory.

 

Mickey Gordon  00:58

I’ll see you get to sing at this time. I

 

Mallory Gordon  00:59

do I have a little flourish because sex Yes. I’m trying I’m trying I know it’s a little chaotic right now. We’re hours away for leaving for Jamaica

 

Mickey Gordon  01:10

so literally hours literally hours why we’re recording this fucker now because this thing’s not actually going to come out for what at least a week.

 

Mallory Gordon  01:18

Yes, correct. A week from this Sunday. And that’s the day we’re coming home. So by the time everyone’s listening to this will either be on a plane on the way back or just fucking exhausted? I don’t think anyone understands like in our vanilla life. Why we come back from vacation so tired. No, they

 

Mickey Gordon  01:35

don’t. It’s like one of those unwritten rules of podcasting, right. Don’t podcast hungover or tired from vacation because it just won’t go well.

 

Mallory Gordon  01:43

No, no, I’m a little cranky. And those predicaments. Yeah. I don’t translate well.

 

Mickey Gordon  01:50

I don’t think that translate well at all. When I’m like that, especially when I’m just craving more rum cream and more midnight pizza and more naked friends. I’m gonna go out to the pool, and I’m gonna be like, where are all my naked friends?

 

Mallory Gordon  02:00

Yeah, well, secret time I struggle with the English language in general when I’m completely sober and on my game.

 

Mickey Gordon  02:06

So yeah, but you know, right about this time that people are listening to this a bunch of our friends are going to be at here and we won’t be there with them.

 

Mallory Gordon  02:15

That’s true. So we have a week in between where we leave. And then our friends get there and we just wrapped up I finished writing out the the scavenger hunt for them. And I’m really excited. It’s cute, silly, fun, sexy.

 

Mickey Gordon  02:28

This is gonna be so much fun. And you did such a good job writing these out. I’m swear to God, like, I think you fucked Dr. Seuss in the past.

 

Mallory Gordon  02:36

I think they’re gonna they’re gonna be like this. This girl’s a dork.

 

Mickey Gordon  02:39

Okay, I think they’re gonna love it. I think it’s gonna get them to really get out there and get like the best of what Hito has to offer and find some of those real landmarks around Hito that, yeah, inspire?

 

Mallory Gordon  02:50

Yeah, I mean, they’re based on some of the iconic things right? When your first couple of trips that you notice, or if you’re part of like, some of the groups as your pre gaming to go. You see these pictures or other things? I don’t want to give out too much.

 

Mickey Gordon  03:08

Yeah, but you don’t want to tell him where to find the shit now, right? Because the Listen,

 

Mallory Gordon  03:11

right? And then you know, but we want to put our twist on it. So there’s a little caveat. Yeah,

 

Mickey Gordon  03:16

I just think it’s gonna be really neat. And we’re looking forward to obviously going to heat Oh, with Rachel’s rascals, which is the group we typically go down there and travel with, because their family. So

 

Mallory Gordon  03:28

they really are. There’s this graduation that happened, you know, we became fast friends. They’re wonderful folk. And the people they surround themselves with and travel with are in the same even if they’re not lifestyle, the lifestyle friendly, and it’s one of those environments, you can just truly be yourself and everyone embraces you for it.

 

Mickey Gordon  03:46

Well, and we just found out last night, we only have three rooms left for our November trip. How’s that possible? We have sold the shit out of these rooms. Everybody wants to go with us in November. So we’re actually traveling with Rachel’s rascals in November. And we’re traveling down with our friends dirty, perv. weak. So that’s iOS connections. We’ve been friends with those guys for a long time. God, what a fucking part. I think

 

Mallory Gordon  04:08

that’s gonna be the biggest party we’ve ever seen in our lives between both of them. Because I mean, we know that you know, iOS connections, sturdy pervs. They’re one hell of a party. And we’ve always bumped up against them. But we’ve never had the opportunity to have to fold trips on property at the same time during the same week.

 

Mickey Gordon  04:24

Yeah. And we want to do everything we can to support those guys. And they have a great week. They do amazing things for their folks. So I really love the idea of putting the great people of the rascals in the party animals and great people from iOS in the same place. I think it’s going to be nuts. But yeah, you might actually have to book with 30. Perfect to get there with us in November. We booked our damn room.

 

Mallory Gordon  04:46

There’s still time if anyone wants to go just hit us up at travel with us. If you have questions or want to inquire I think 2021 is going to be enormous. I think we’re going to try to have half the resort.

 

Mickey Gordon  04:56

Yeah. But speaking of casual swinger calm Last travel with us where if you go to that part of our website that’s also where you can book for our room block for Nashville which is coming up now by the way, you have to book by March 3, which means you have two days from the time you listen to this episode. Yeah,

 

Mallory Gordon  05:13

sorry about the short runway but like everything is probably posted at this point on our social media pages. You have questions again, hit us up, we will have Wi Fi we’re while we’re on the resorts. If you have last minute questions, don’t hesitate, reach out, you know, immediately if you’re interested. And FYI, all of these trips we’re talking about, we don’t make money off of them. We do them for fun. We want to meet people, we want to have a good time. This isn’t about monetization for us.

 

Mickey Gordon  05:41

Now. This is party time. So

 

Mallory Gordon  05:42

that’s why we say you dicks and fantasies predicts Yeah, there you go.

 

Mickey Gordon  05:49

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Mallory Gordon  05:53

Oh, is that your DJ like stripper?

 

Mickey Gordon  05:58

Womp womp

 

Mallory Gordon  05:59

It’s so cute. I love it. It kind of turns me on a

 

Mickey Gordon  06:01

little a little bit right now. But anyway, so we are going to Nashville and we’re going with so many cool last friends. We just found out this sapphic won’t be able to join us. But we are gonna have our naughty escapades. We’re gonna have you for your Chronicles. We’re gonna have this sexy motherfuckers from Doubleday nation. And new with tags Podcast.

 

Mallory Gordon  06:17

I am so excited to meet them. Yeah,

 

Mickey Gordon  06:20

they’re really really nice. We I just listened to their new episode and they did some heavy stuff in that new episode too. So I was just really I’m really impressed with where they’re going. I like how they’re doing. Awesome. So they’re gonna be there. We’re going to be at Minaj on Saturday, April 4,

 

Mallory Gordon  06:33

what is what is Minaj

 

Mickey Gordon  06:35

on Aaj is a lifestyle club in Nashville. And it’s got all kinds of good stuff going on. They have stuff going on every weekend at Minaj it’s very popular. They’ve had podcaster shenanigans there once before. Just a high a high class high skilled good time club in downtown Nashville and it is right in downtown.

 

Mallory Gordon  06:53

Oh, that’s gonna be amazing. I’m so excited.

 

Mickey Gordon  06:55

Yeah, me too. I think it’s gonna be just amazing. But remember guys, you got a book 24 hours in advance for Minaj and again, our room rate our block expires March 3. So go to casual swinger.com slash travel with us and get those details use code 2000 for casual. That is the code if you want to book the Millennium Maxwell House to have a place to stay where all the other drunk swingers are staying. But we’ll be going to Minaj with all those fun ask people Friday or we’re going Saturday then Friday. We’re gonna be downtown partying.

 

Mallory Gordon  07:25

Is that like a throwback to when I graduated high school? Oh, shut.

 

Mickey Gordon  07:30

millennial.

 

Mallory Gordon  07:32

I’m not I’m just giving my guess. No, not even close.

 

Mickey Gordon  07:35

Someone just say college should be free once for me. I want to hear Oh,

 

Mallory Gordon  07:39

don’t even get me started. You’re gonna give me flashbacks to the whiskey Myers concert.

 

Mickey Gordon  07:44

That’s awesome. So anyway, we’ve got that going on. We’ve got of of seafoam again is almost completely booked up, by the way to the host hotel.

 

Mallory Gordon  07:53

Oh, yeah. Sold out. They’re sold out. I mean, it’s a testament to Randy, they do such a great job. They’re so active in the community. And I haven’t had the pleasure of going but I’m looking forward to August because they throw a badass party.

 

Mickey Gordon  08:09

They do and word on the street is well, I can’t wait to just see how the pros do it. We talked about this last week when we recorded. I just I’m looking forward to seeing these guys in action. I know how hard they work when they’re not supposed to be working. So I can’t wait to see what this thing. Yeah, it’s

 

Mallory Gordon  08:25

amazing then podcast Palooza is coming up in May. That one’s over 80% sold out. We have people coming. Dude, we have people coming from Costa Rica.

 

Mickey Gordon  08:33

Yeah. And Dominican and a few other places. It’s just nuts.

 

Mallory Gordon  08:37

It is. So can I just say how grateful I am for the experiences that we already have scheduled for this year. Something stunned. So FYI, I know it sounds like we’re pitching a lot of this. It that’s not our intention. We’re just really excited to get out and do things that surround the lifestyle and people that support the community. It we had a Delta in our life when we were between homes, right, we moved. We got here. And we spent a long time it was almost a year and a half with this. This inactivity that happened just because of lack of resources or time or whatever it is. So I kind of feel like we’re making up for lost time here.

 

Mickey Gordon  09:24

I know we are but you know, it’s it’s just kind of strange because I know it during the first year of casual swinger, one of the most common pieces of feedback we got from from new listeners, which we appreciate every single last word or both of you, whatever. But we really appreciate all of you. And the thing that I heard the most from you guys was, well let us know where you’re going to be so we can go. And so that’s kind of you know, this year, we’ve really focused on making sure we tell you guys every time we leave the house pretty much

 

Mallory Gordon  09:57

I’m going to start sending my geolocation

 

Mickey Gordon  09:59

right Mallory here. Right?

 

Mallory Gordon  10:02

That’s probably creepy. I shouldn’t do that.

 

Mickey Gordon  10:05

You needed the gym is somebody being like Hi, entertain me.

 

Mallory Gordon  10:08

You could have fun with that though because I really I am I’m twisted. Something. Something’s amiss up there and this brain of mine many many things, but

 

Mickey Gordon  10:17

you know guys if you are interested in podcast to Palooza, check out podcast dash, a dash palooza.com. Like we said it’s 84% filled out, which means you have very few opportunities remaining to jump in on what I honestly think is going to end up being the event of the year in the lifestyle. I think people are going to talk about it in ways that is going to create FOMO like you’ve never seen.

 

Mallory Gordon  10:42

Yeah, I have to say with with Kate’s planning and her organizational capabilities and her research and dedication to this project as a whole. Dude, it’s just it’s gonna be mind blowing.

 

Mickey Gordon  10:52

Mm hmm.

 

Mallory Gordon  10:53

She has every corner every facet covered.

 

Mickey Gordon  10:57

Speaking of every corner in every facet covered, we’re going to talk about kinky stuff today. This is talk kinky To me, that’s what our episode is. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is all about Mallory.

 

Mallory Gordon  11:08

I hate to because no, I totally want to pick up on this. But we had a conversation earlier today. And I’m still a little bit confused. I need some clarification. Yeah. What the fuck is taken blowjob day. Like,

 

Mickey Gordon  11:23

say I forgot all about that. I just transition straight to the kink. But hey, you know, February 14, is Hallmark day. It’s that day that we’re all expected as guys to buy flowers. Take you to dinner tell you we love you in schmooze right chocolates and little edible pennies and all those things that really make you feel special. guys deserve a date too. Don’t you guys? I think you deserve a day. We all think you deserve a day and that’s where March 14 comes in. Okay, March is international steak and blowjob day. Okay. Back this truck up.

 

Mallory Gordon  12:05

I do love my chocolate. I can do without the edible pennies. I don’t want to go to a restaurant. Exactly. I don’t want to go to a restaurant on this holiday because they’re always packed like seriously some sex maybe some wines a foot massage a little or whiskey whiskey is great. I

 

Mickey Gordon  12:23

would have let you massage my feet on Valentine’s Day. Oh no.

 

Mallory Gordon  12:26

How do you get a massage on Valentine’s Day and stay? Cambogia How do I get to I get to give the blowjob to somebody else and eat steak. Is that is that what that is?

 

Mickey Gordon  12:35

That’s my luck. We go out for steak you blow job day another guy gets a blowjob.

 

Mallory Gordon  12:39

No, I do think it’s a it’s a cute idea. And I’ve seen like the trend I think last year the year before is the first time I noticed it because it can be so oblivious at times. And it’s it’s funny to me and I’d love to embrace it.

 

Mickey Gordon  12:53

I Well, I plan on embracing it and we’re embracing it on casual toys. If you go to casual toys calm between now and steak and blowjob day, which is March 14 2020. Between now and then you can get it virtually anything in our store for 20% off and you use the code steak and BJ that steak ampersand BJ

 

Mallory Gordon  13:15

does that could work on what you got the other day that f s one or F one s What is that? What is that thing? It’s it came with fucking driving gloves. Like I think

 

Mickey Gordon  13:25

my lelo picture of him put it on Twitter because I bought this toy. It was literally a lark, I was buying stuff for Hito. And the way it works is I have to go over a certain amount and I pay a service fee. So I went ahead and bought this new toy from Lilo. And it’s called the F one s and it’s supposed to be kind of like a race car for your penis. And it’s a masturbator that you put over your junk like a flashlight, but it has motors in it and it has a kind of like a progressive motor in it. It’s

 

Mallory Gordon  13:58

okay. At the end of it. So it’s like a it’s a cylinder.

 

Mickey Gordon  14:01

Yeah, all kinds of wild shit. And it’s got a app and it’s Bluetooth enabled.

 

Mallory Gordon  14:06

You brought it into the room with the gloves. I was like why the fuck do we need a new Alexa? Right?

 

Mickey Gordon  14:12

It dies Well, our neck? Yeah. Yeah,

 

Mallory Gordon  14:16

I was like if you’re fucking an echo, Doc man, you really do have a cheese wheel?

 

Mickey Gordon  14:19

Yeah, Alexis got a sexy fucking voice. But so this this thing right I bought it and then I opened it and it’s good fucking driving gloves and like, and you look at Robins racing Harry. I’m like, Fuck, I’m done. It does. It

 

Mallory Gordon  14:35

does look like a really badass toy. Like I like I’m not gonna lie. I’m such a kid. I stuck my fingers in it to kind of feel like how the texture is and hold it see how heavy it is? And because like, if I was a dude and I had a deck as far as a masturbator goes, you don’t want it to be absurd. Like a destructive to the goal.

 

Mickey Gordon  14:55

Yeah, well, you can buy there’s a version of it that’s got a window in it so you can see your dick going through the carwash, which I really don’t understand aspect of it. Well,

 

Mallory Gordon  15:04

I’ll tell you what, though, if I was watching that would be cool. Okay, I’m just saying like as a private event, I totally get the black matte like outside of it, but

 

Mickey Gordon  15:14

I’m not gonna lie. I bought the black matte version because it was in stocks. I probably would have Ferrari red version I would have bought that because the other one is like Ferrari red.

 

Mallory Gordon  15:22

Yeah, it’s gonna take everything I cannot to watch. You use it for the first time, like or Oh, no, I

 

Mickey Gordon  15:27

plan on like, trying it out together. Let’s let’s make this a team sport.

 

Mallory Gordon  15:30

Okay, okay. Um, so in and I promise I’ll be good. And they won’t make any jokes. You can drive the app. Oh, oh, my god. So yeah, that’s the

 

Mickey Gordon  15:39

one s and we actually do have like, 10 who gets to

 

Mallory Gordon  15:42

wear the gloves? Can we wear one like Michael Jackson? Oh, let’s

 

Mickey Gordon  15:45

do it. Okay. All right. I’ll sing Billie Jean wild thing, right? This thing? Oh,

 

Mallory Gordon  15:48

come on, beat it. Come on.

 

Mickey Gordon  15:54

Come on is wrong with you. So let’s talk kink for a minute. Before we get started.

 

Mallory Gordon  15:58

Yes. I’m so excited about this. And thank you so much for entertaining this and supporting this. I had the pleasure of being introduced to a woman named Nookie. Nookie is a content creator and entrepreneur, business owner, founder. She has a website called dating kinky. That’s based on the kink lifestyle, right, that covers obviously many genres of kink. That’s going to be launched in March. But she has a free webinar that’s happening March 8 in it’s an all day event with so many different categories and subject matter and panelists and speakers. It’s women centric, and it starts I think, at 8am. Pacific goose all day, all day long. I am on a panel, which I still I still can’t believe this maybe your panel. It is sluts, trollops and trans women and non monogamy Yeah, women and non monogamy. And my co panelists are one of them. out of the four of us is Venus, who’s been a guest on our show. twice so far.

 

Mickey Gordon  17:05

Yeah, that’s just amazing. So Nookie, like who has one of the coolest names ever? I’m sorry, if I’m talking to a sex positive woman named Nookie Nookie. That’s just Kismet. Right? And

 

Mallory Gordon  17:14

it really is.

 

Mickey Gordon  17:16

This thing is going down on March 8, which is International Women’s Day to start with, but now we’re calling it international kinky Women’s Day.

 

Mallory Gordon  17:23

That’s true. Because march, march 8 is women’s status. It is Yeah.

 

Mickey Gordon  17:27

So this is a big deal. Guys, you want to tune in for this and you want to hear more about what’s coming up right here next on casual swinger. Over the next 45 minutes you’re gonna hear from Nicki, who is the founder and the head of international kinky Women’s Day.

 

Mallory Gordon  17:42

And before we take you guys down, I’m going to skip the casual swinger and where to find us. If you’re interested in this free webinar, go to live dot international kinky women’s day.com.

 

Mickey Gordon  17:53

There you go, folks. You’ll find out more about how to catch up with us later. But in the meantime, enjoy this conversation we had with the amazing Nookie. You’ve been listening to casual swinger.

 

Mallory Gordon  18:25

Welcome back to casual swinger malar here,

 

Mickey Gordon  18:28

and Mickey

 

Mallory Gordon  18:29

and we’ve got a very interesting episode for you folks. Today we have a special guest Nookie. Nookie is the founder of dating kinky and international kinky Women’s Day.

 

Mickey Gordon  18:41

Welcome to my world Nookie How you doing today darlin?

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  18:45

Wonderful thank you both

 

Mickey Gordon  18:47

it’s my only opportunity to call it my world I can only call it a man’s world like one time and not die on this call right that’s true you’re out of my reach your to fire. Welcome to casual swinger. Miss Nookie. We’re gonna talk today about international kinky Women’s Day. This is this is one of those times where Mickey gets to sit back and hear about all the amazing sex positive women and all the cool things we’ve got coming and the beautiful Mallory is going to be a panelist on this thing, right?

 

Mallory Gordon  19:13

Yeah. Love it. That’s basically how I sounded after I got off the phone with her after that discussion. Super excited. You were

 

Mickey Gordon  19:22

so jacked over that and of course colder. Venus is gonna be there who we just had on the show last week. Yeah, that’s gonna be awesome. So we’re so excited to talk about this. You know, I think what we should probably do is kind of give some background on on what you’re doing and in kind of everything that you do that surrounds kink before you ladies really get rolling.

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  19:42

My name is Nikki. I’ve been doing the kink thing for a really really long time. And I run dating thinking calm, which is a site built by King stirs for cancers. poly queer, trans spoken anyone not quite vanilla. So the idea is to be the answer to. We’ve got our vanilla sites out there, we’ve got our swing sites out there. We don’t really have anything that sort of crosses over into the kink without it being super sleazy. Right. So that’s, that’s kind of where I’m coming from. But I originally started as an educator.

 

Mallory Gordon  20:23

Oh, really? I didn’t know that.

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  20:24

Yeah. So I kind of thought I want to bring people together. And I want to teach them how to be together more successfully, whether is friends or play partners, or lovers or marriage lifetime, whatever you want to call it.

 

Mallory Gordon  20:38

Absolutely love it. So you started dating kinky, and is that live now, after like posting

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  20:45

live. So we’re in version two of our prototype. And we’ve got around 45,000 users in there right now. And then once we get this version three out, which will hopefully be in the next couple of weeks, then we’re really going to start promoting and really focusing in on all the things that we can do, because it’s been it’s been a road but it’s been a lot of people in there telling us you know, what they want to see from a site as much as you know, me sort of creating this piece, you know, of a piece out of my head. Well, that’s kind of neat, right?

 

Mickey Gordon  21:21

There are alternative sites out there all coms that lie things like that. So when you created dating kinky, what was your goal? What were they what were people not getting, in your opinion that you thought you could bring to bear with something like dating kinky.

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  21:34

But one thing to keep in mind that goes along with the whole topic of this episode is that I am a woman, anything. And I’ve been using kink sites. I mean, I was I was a fetlife member the first year that they got going. So I’ve been using kink sites and kink dating sites and regular dating sites pretty much since they started, you know, I even hung out with the pickup artists community back in the day. And that’s all I did. In fact, one of my dear friends, I met through the pickup artist community and I ended up David shade. He does like male dominance, masterful lover stuff. And then through him, I met the guy Mark Cunningham that I went to Thailand with and did a sexual hypnosis and slave training seminar. Oh, how cool is that these things, you know, come together to give me a perspective. And part of that perspective is the fact that I am a non man on dating, right? Because a lot of men get onto dating sites and the biggest challenges with for men on dating sites is getting a response, right? Finding the right way to reach out to you know, the beauty of their dreams. Whereas the challenges for women on dating sites is often we join. And we’re inundated by messages that many of them aren’t very nice. Or once you say, you know, No, thank you. devolve very quickly.

 

Mallory Gordon  23:04

Yeah, or the standard like Hello, here’s an unsolicited dick pic.

 

Mickey Gordon  23:08

Yeah, it’s like someone’s throwing hot dogs in your face just repeatedly, like rapid fire hot dogs. Yes.

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  23:13

Yeah, I get where you’re coming from. Yeah. And Mallory. I mean, you saw that my response to an unsolicited dick pics. So love that the best response ever. It really is. The videos outstanding more than nearly all of mine. You have an assortment. So the idea was to create a site where it wasn’t like that. And then you’ve got Bumble out there, right, which is like we put women for. And I don’t want to put women first either I don’t want to put any gender first what I want to do is I want to create a site that by its engineering gives an equal and level playing field to all the genders. Essentially what I want to do is I wanted to create a kinky site that isn’t a race to the bottom of the barrel as far as like behavior goes right? Like it’s, it’s about being in control of your online experience. I can’t tell you how many women Morton included who have said something along the lines of the next time I get a message from some person bent over spreading their gaping butthole. I’m going to scream.

 

Mickey Gordon  24:27

Unless that’s your thing, in which case you’re collecting. I

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  24:30

mean, even if it’s your thing, if this is the first message. Hi, I’m Shawn, lovely to meet you. Well, it’s lovely to meet you, too. It doesn’t have to be a face picture. Obviously, we respect everybody’s privacy. But it can’t be an explicit picture. We love this.

 

Mallory Gordon  24:50

Right? So you’re bringing a lot of control from a personal users perspective as well as class to dating. Yeah. So that’s really exciting. So

 

Mickey Gordon  25:03

let’s talk about that. And we talked about consent, because I know we talked about that a ton in consensual non monogamy and kink and places like that, let’s address for a minute, just kind of how the growth of consensual non monogamy and people embracing their kinks, how are those things affecting dating? As as whether it’s online dating? And how are they going to change people’s behaviors over the next 135 years, in your opinion, as an operator of the site, um,

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  25:32

there’s, there’s a lot of things, first of all, the idea that people can be both couples and individuals, or actually, I should say, all three couples, individuals or families and still be open to, you know, happy, sexy, fun times, or friends with benefits, or romantic, non sexual partners or play an instinct, you know, it’s not necessarily about the fact, you know, sometimes it’s just about the play, or the service, for example. And so I think you’re gonna see a lot more of that, which is one of the reasons that we’re doing things on, you know, similar to Facebook, you know, you can add a relationship with somebody. And know, you know, I’m in this type of relationship with this person, and yet, I’m still looking for these things, but also more, we’ve actually put in relationship styles. So, again, in the filters, people can say, you know, I’m looking for somebody who matches these relationship styles, and the filter says, Okay, then I want somebody who is either monogamous, or sexually monogamous. And it would filter out the ethically non monogamous polyamorous swingers open, closed group, or family type relationships and the discrete folk, right, so you could actually say, you know, these are the things that I’m open to connecting, on or with. And if you don’t match these, you know, you’re you’re going to end up going into my filters. Wow,

 

Mallory Gordon  27:22

that’s crazy. So am I going to need like a sitemap to figure out how to filter all these things in a very high level, but I just poking around some of the things you’ve done, everything seems very streamlined and very clean. So as complicated as it sounds, I’m going to assume that it’s a little more intuitive than that. But I love how its strategic and the efforts and desires of that user or that couple or whoever is the member on the site. So that’s great. Is there anything else? As far as you know, what we should know about the site how to check it out? When it’s official launches?

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  27:56

You can check it out. Now, it’s a dating thinking. com, the official launch is early March. I’m hoping it’ll wash before international safety Women’s Day, but I’m not terribly worried. I mean, rice is more important than immediate? Sure, no, when it comes to this, because of the, you know, the ease of use, and you know, I’m guessing that when we do launch it, you know, there is going to be a lot more complexity to it than there was in this previous version. So you know, we’re going to launch and then we’re going to streamline a lot, you know, once we get people in there, and we get, we find out how people are actually using all of the features that we’ve put in. Right, you know, that’s going to be critical, as well, as you know, making sure that we know how people are using these relationship styles. Are they asking for another relationship style? Are they wanting to say, you know, maybe I want to choose both ethically non monogamous and polyamorous, or, you know, I want to I want to be able to expand my options, because I don’t fit within a neat little box. And those are the types of things that we’re going to have to figure out as we go.

 

Mallory Gordon  29:02

Right on. Well, good. Yeah, we’re looking forward to the development and the continuation of dating kinky.

 

Mickey Gordon  29:09

Yeah. And, and I do I do want to ask one quick little thing as it relates to dating kinky, because I think this matters, because we’ve talked about it for a few minutes, we’ve talked about what it is. But you when you created this, there’s a listener out there somewhere right now who’s either looking for something or they want to be found. If that person is listening, and they want to be found, or they’re looking for something, why would they come to dating kinky first? Okay, there’s

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  29:37

a couple of reasons. First of all, because I’m awesome

 

Mickey Gordon  29:42

dancer and her name is Nookie.

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  29:47

Because I’m trying to do good for the community and supporting good for the community is, is important. Because we’re growing. You know, we’ve got new people joining us every day and that’s super exciting, even though we’re still in print. Fight mode. And because as we move forward, this site is really all about our users. So as we relaunch, you know, we’ve got a suggestion box where people are going to be able to vote. And we’re taking it very seriously, that we want to provide a site that makes people feel both safe and excited about the possibilities. That might be a difficult balance. But it’s one that I’m really, really driving for,

 

Mallory Gordon  30:34

you definitely have our support on this end.

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  30:36

Thank you. There’s something like, as simple as, you know, if somebody’s bothering you, and you report them, you know, we’ll take care of it. You know, super, super simple, we can’t hand you know, we can’t make sure that everybody that gets in, there isn’t a dork or a jerkwad, or, you know, a mean scammer or whatever. But as soon as they reported, we can hop right on that and make sure that things are taken care of. And that’s a pretty critical factor, I think. Yeah, I’m

 

Mallory Gordon  31:04

huge, huge on customer Member Services. So that’s fantastic. So now that we’ve kind of covered that, how do you feel about giving a little background on yourself personally, before we segue into what International Women’s Day is and how people can access that and grab resources, because I like to tell everyone’s origin stories. You said, You’ve been in the kingdom for quite some time. Can you tell us a little background did that come from like a lifestyle relationship? Was that an accidental discovery for you? And what is it what is your kink?

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  31:37

Okay, so I actually grew up with twin sisters. So, you know, they didn’t, they didn’t like, indoctrinate me or anything. But once I got out into the kink world, I’m like, oh, that explains a lot.

 

Mickey Gordon  31:53

us to actually that’s where that’s where our names came from on this podcast.

 

Mallory Gordon  31:57

That is true. We’re natural born swingers. Nice. Yeah. Oh, both parents. Both of our parents were swingers. Yeah.

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  32:05

Wow. Yeah. So mine were the the swingy with the kinky people like so. You know, the I grew up with, I knew gay people. I knew a woman who had a boyfriend and a girlfriend and board leather. I knew a guy who liked to, you know, dress up in women’s clothes. And none of this seemed odd to me. Right? This is this is just people. So when I found the kink scene in New York City at the age of 19, I walked into the vault, and I felt like I was home. Wow. Which was really awesome for me. And I started out with a lot of s&m standard models. And then after many years, I realized that I, I really enjoyed the mental aspects of this. So at this point in my life, I am a dominant woman. Sam told me I could be anything I wanted to be, she was wrong. I thought I wanted to be a switch. I am incapable of submitting. Stuff that fair enough. But I call myself a dominant switch in the sense that my dominance is how I lead my relationships. But when it comes to activities, I can top or bottom I’m more of a hedonist. If it feels good, and we’re having a good time, let’s do it. I just happened to be in charge of my life and my partner’s life. And I also tend to be a leader within, you know, my trust and my community. And my primary thing, our behavior modification, that’s the hypnosis travel that I did over time. And like Venus, I’m a cuckold dress.

 

Mallory Gordon  33:53

Love it. Absolutely love it

 

Mickey Gordon  33:55

more. Be very, very free.

 

Mallory Gordon  34:02

No, be very excited. Very, very excited. There’s plenty to go around. So a lot of times when when I’ve had conversations, like, especially one on one, as I’m talking about, you know, other women as we’re meeting in the lifestyle within this community, they’ve had to like break, you know, maybe some internal glass ceilings or overcome obstacles because, you know, we’re kind of raised to not embrace sex. It’s kind of shameful. So not only do we have to get over that, but if you have kinks or little twists and turns and your sexual desires, a lot of times we stifle that down. So it sounds like when when you came into it, you were already exposed to you know, normal and ruin that veil lifted. You were it was an aha moment right Angel singing you walked into the vault and and felt perfectly at ease. So it’s really beautiful to hear that.

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  34:56

Interestingly enough, so there’s there’s a little something I can I can add to that glass ceiling thing. And so when I was in my teens exploring my world, I tried at one point, somewhere in there, I tried a one night stand. And I got all I mean, I had never not gotten off during sex. I was very lucky that way. But it was like, I got off, but I mean, he was cute. He was like from Brazil, he was visiting the university, he was going away. Fabulous, right. But it was just like, so I didn’t ever do another one night stands. In between that, and my pet my current partner. I had a husband and I had a relatively long term boyfriend. So for a total of about 22 years. I was effectively monogamous even though theoretically both of them were, were probably I was just, I was very busy. And I wasn’t really going out and looking because I really needed that deep connection to make anything happen. And that just seemed like too much hassle. Right? And, okay, so, but both of them, even though they were both theoretically, Callie, by the end of the relationship, both of them had gotten quite jealous and a little possessive. When I met my test, and we started connecting really deeply, he mentioned this cuckolding thing. And my first thought was, it’s attract me into this shit. And then when he gets mad at me, he’s gonna turn into my exit. Right? He’s gonna go from my baby. This is so hot. This is so wonderful. I love your sexuality, to you know, slut.

 

Mallory Gordon  36:56

Yeah. Which I find is an endearing term these days, but I’m with you. Like there is that fear, especially in the beginning, when it’s not something you’ve experienced? You’re really scared that someone’s gonna weaponize it and hold you know,

 

Mickey Gordon  37:07

turn it against you. Yeah, say it with me gentlemen. We love slats.

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  37:11

Yes, we love flat. I love flat like I thought I called my pet flat all the time. I’m like, Oh, you dirty little flat.

 

Mallory Gordon  37:19

I love it.

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  37:19

It is so wonderful. Like he’s crazy. He’s the most adorable slept ever.

 

Mickey Gordon  37:26

So you know, it’s I we have a theme here Mallory. I mean, for people that have been following casual swingers, since the beginning in season one, we had Beth Liebling from Darlene way boutique in Houston, Texas on her show. Yeah. And she coined a term that we call BMS. So we still talk about it here on the show. BMS stands for boring married sex, and she said she had a lifetime of boring married sex before she sees her sexuality. And she became something else we had Nicole who was a unicorn on the show who had boring married sex and she sees her sexuality after her divorce. We had cuckold dress Venus on the show, who has had some really revealing sexual experiences that have turned her into who she is and now we have gnocci from dating kinky is also seized her sexuality after please don’t divorce me in CO sees your sexuality.

 

Mallory Gordon  38:16

I am seizing my sexuality you You are absolutely the the levy that opened right for me. Because I was always I even though I was exposed to other things growing up he sex for my parents being swingers It was not really talked about. Like he just wasn’t something to this day like, my dad gets like now he’s an overkill mode. Now that he knows everything. So like, and

 

Mickey Gordon  38:43

he wants to talk about this shit in front of us way too much.

 

Mallory Gordon  38:45

Very much so very, like, Mickey will do something and my dad will wink and be like, hey, that’ll get you a blowjob. Like dad. Please.

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  38:54

Okay, wait, wait. I got I got a dad story. I got a dad, sir. Okay, we’re hanging out. We’re hanging out when one holiday and my stepmother had run the local Munch for years in this area where they’re living. And so I said to him for five years back are hanging out and I say so is you know, my family is still running this much. He said now we pretty much you know step back tonight. So are you like in the kink scene at all anymore? He says I’m too old for that shit. I got tired a 22 year old not knows Dom telling me how to fuck my wife.

 

Mickey Gordon  39:37

Damn, dad. There’s an eye opener for you. So So, you know it’s funny because, you know, we talked about how we uh, we came into this and you’ve got to I think we probably all have dad’s stories. We could probably do a whole Twitter thread on dad story we really should. But you know, something that a lot of us in the lifestyle content creator space, which is a space now there’s so many fucking podcasts out out there. But, you know, one of the things we always talk about together when we get together is the questions we get. And we always get asked the same fucking questions like every, it’s like, the most common question is always the same for us, and the lifestyle content creator space, which is how do I get my partner to swing? That is the number one question. I always get what we want to know from you as a kingster, and an entrepreneur and all the things that you are, I’m sure you get a ton of questions surrounding kink from newbies. So what is their first question? And what do you think the biggest taboo is about approaching your partner about kink?

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  40:36

There are a lot of hang ups, as you know, I mean, swinging kink, whatever, for a lot of hang ups about sex. And yeah, I mean, I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s always the first question, but it almost always comes up. How do I talk to my partner about insert whatever kink is here, right? It might be click holding, it might be a balloon fetish, or whatever it is. kink in general, I like to be saying, whatever it is, you know. But really, when it comes right down to it, and I talked about this, so like, I just the book out that I have this month is called. So what is kinky anyway? And it’s, you know, there’s a section in there, how do I talk to my partner about this. And my first suggestion, requirement, tip, whatever it is, is, first, you have to make sure that you can talk to your partner, like that you can just talk about like regular sex, you know, if you please your partner, do you know if they feel like they please you? Do you know, what their fantasies are? Start at the very basics, because if you can’t answer those types of questions first, you can’t be bringing it up, hey, let’s go fuck other people or, you know, hey, let’s, you know, spank each other’s asses and then eat whipped cream, right? These, these things need to be like, you need to have a foundation of communication. Before you jump off the deep end, you need to have created a space where both of you feel safe talking about your sexuality and your interests. So that you’re on the same page to begin with. And then the second thing, the second thing is realizing that you might have been thinking about this for the past three years. But because them This might be the first time they’ve ever even thought about it. And that’s so true. Already mentally, you know, jumped off the deep end. And you know, you’re you’re taking the big dive, and they haven’t even stuck a toe in the water of the kiddie pool yet. Right and pushing them along is not going to help.

 

Mallory Gordon  43:12

No, you You’re so right. You’re so right, the foundation and communication is key in any relationship. I don’t care how vanilla or, you know, swinger you are or kinky you are that that is literally the foundation of it. And it can be challenging and something that I think Mickey and I do well together, is we ask each other questions, if there’s something I’m wondering about. I’ll ask, even if it’s uncomfortable, even if it’s a little strange at the time,

 

Mickey Gordon  43:42

you’re like, Hey, what do you think of law? And you know, sometimes it’s it’s a little unnerving or takes you back a little bit. But I think having that that kind of existing relationship where there is no question that’s a deal breaker, there’s no thing you can say to me, that’s going to make me look at you and go You fucking weirdo. Outside of why did you make broccoli and asparagus at the same time? No, green shirt, all the green stuff. I actually want to stop real quick. And because here on casual swinger, we do talk about a lot of things. But if you’re listening to this show, right now, you just heard something that actually applies whether you’re a kingster, a lifestyler, or you’re just dating somebody or married to somebody has nothing to anybody else at all. And it’s a really simple phrase that I want you to remember. I can’t give you what you want, if you don’t know what it is that you want. Right. So that’s the conversation we have to have. Hey, what do you want, right? So and this is why it’s so hard actually, for, you know, Mallory, and I’ve been in the lifestyle for almost 14 years together. And when we meet couples that are just starting out, we meet them all the time. We love hanging out with them, but it’s really hard to play with a couple that’s brand new and It’s hard to play with them because they don’t know what they want. And we’ve been doing it so long, we’re pretty good at what we want. We know what we like, we know what we enjoy. But so we have to go as slow as the slowest person, which is totally fine. We don’t mind. We love the people that we do hang out and play with. But it’s difficult. So when you’re talking to your partner, and what Nookie was saying, out there, guys, make sure you go rewind, listen to it again. Listen to what they’re saying, Listen to what they want. And if they don’t know, they’re gonna have a hard time expressing it to you. And I think that was huge Nookie, and I think that was important to reiterate.

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  45:33

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, know what you want. And if you can get to the point where you’re able to talk about sex, no matter what, like you could be, you know, walking down the the aisle of the grocery store and be like, Oh, hey, I read this article today. What do you think about, then you can really start diving into deeper stuff, right? Like, sure. Really, like weird fucked up shit that’s in the back of all of our heads. Yeah, yeah, no. And the front of mine in the safe space,

 

Mallory Gordon  46:05

it is. And one of the best things I think we did is this verbal contract with each other, that you’re not, we’re never gonna break this no matter what it is. We won’t break it. So we’re totally comfortable bringing everything in anything to the table. And it’s hard to do. It’s challenging at times, because some some things do take you back and take time to mull over. And, you know, we have to be comfortable with saying, I get where you’re coming from, and I want you to be happy. I don’t know that I can be the person to give that to you. By all means I get it. Sometimes that is the answer. Sometimes it is and I love that. So I want to get into international kinky Women’s Day. So after our conversation, I literally left there feeling like Damn, this girl’s like super woman. You’re an entrepreneur, you’re a content creator, you’re an advocate. You live in powering women, you have great ideas, you’re super articulate. Let’s talk about the the resource you’re providing here. What inspired you to create this day long webinar that focuses on kink, consensual, non monogamy, as well as a plethora of other topics,

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  47:10

I got a wild hair.

 

Mickey Gordon  47:13

I suspect that’s how a lot of things happen in your world. I’m gonna tie a guy up his ass today.

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  47:22

So I got a book scheduled for every month of this year writing. And the book that’s coming out in March is FLR. femme DOM and women in charge relationships. So I’m fussing around and you know, one of our marketing goals is to create a webinar twice a month, this sort of supports whatever topic of the month it happens to be, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, some dicking around and I’m looking and I’m like, International Women’s Day is March 8. Internet. How cool is that? Yeah, we got a, an FLR book coming out in March. And in fact, the Women’s Day is March 8. And it’s only like two months away.

 

Mallory Gordon  48:12

And the universe shone upon you.

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  48:14

Yeah. Yes. So I am getting there. And my fingers. Take me over to GoDaddy. And I’d like international kinky women say that. Oh, I got it. Okay, and then I send a message to my team. So What do y’all think of this idea that I’ve already purchased the domain for and pretty much planned out? And you have a lot in common?

 

Mickey Gordon  48:38

Yeah, now’s not a good time to shit on the idea that’s already.

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  48:43

And so I just said, Okay, so we’ve got these resources. And interestingly enough, this we had had one webinar, what I came up with this idea, we had hosted one live webinar, and that’s like, okay, so an entire day of webinars live, and they’re like, are you

 

Mallory Gordon  49:01

not just doing not just live in all day, but fucking free.

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  49:07

You have lost your mind. I am. I am incredibly lucky, in that I have managed to gather some assets over the prototype building of my project that allows me to have up to 500 people per webinar, or at a single time, but there’s only gonna be one running at a time. So per webinar, with no additional cost to me, ever. That’s amazing. I can pass that on to the community. Right. So anybody who joins us live for any of these webinars, get to participate at no cost, and learn and interact with other people and connect and hopefully make friends and learn about, you know, what people are doing out there about your podcast about key Barrett books. About lady Lee’s kink venue, the last and you know, these types of things and learn more about all of these amazing, you know, women and kink you know, it’s celebrating the women and kink and the kink in women. And yeah, so I’m like really lucky because I can I made certain decisions. That means that I don’t, I don’t have to pay more in order to allow you know this to be free to people. And so I’m like I get to celebrate women, I get to meet people like you, right as a result, I get to educate. And I get to do this to a bunch of people free, that I can’t imagine anything better. Like, this is super exciting to me. And it goes along with that, you know, I want people to be able to connect with one another. And this could be business, it could be pleasure, it could be any of these things. But I also want people to be more successful when they do connect. And that’s well, you know, we’ll be talking about finding your feminine leadership style, we’ll be talking about Mallory, you’re going to be on, let’s call it some trans. Exciting, giving women permission. You know, we’ve also got women who are submissive, slaves, consensual non consent, relationships, teach rape play, and a woman who is a porn star. And they’re going to be talking about how these, what most people would see as disempowering choices have allowed them to be more of themselves and have empowered that. Right, you know, we’ve got a woman who’s going to be talking about pleasure, and shame and how they interact and moving past shame, and then also using shame, for part of your pleasure. And she’s a woman in the pleasure guide from Seattle area. And like, wow, like, I’m just, I’m blown away by these things. One of my very best friends, I call her my hair dominance. She’s gonna be doing body care. And this is going to be you know, saw that Yeah, or Yeah, or dominant here. And you can you can pamper, your dominant or dominant could do this for their submissive, right, like, I’m going to give you a really nice day. So Oh, my gosh, I mean, I’m just so geeked out about this.

 

Mickey Gordon  52:43

Get that and what I’m really getting for you, what I love that I’m getting from you is passion. I think passion is my thing. And what I’m getting from you is this overwhelming sense of passion and you covered a subject. By the way, whatever our most popular podcast we’ve ever done on casual swinger was one we did that we called Shame on you love God. And we actually had some lifestyle friendly pastors on that talked about shame, wow. As it relates yes to the lifestyle in embracing your sexuality and your own nudity. And yeah, and I using

 

Mallory Gordon  53:15

Yeah, and giving yourself permission, because you’re the only one that can do that. You’re not seeking other people’s approval or permission, you are the holder of that.

 

Mickey Gordon  53:23

So I love that. And I love that we share a passion with you, it sounds like because you’re covering some of the same things that we find to be hot buttons, not just in the lifestyle, but in room personal kinks. But what I want to know from moving forward on here, because I want to get to your books too before we’re done here, and we only have a few minutes left. But I want to know, when it comes to international kinky Women’s Day, what does success look like for you? Is it a multi year event? Do you want to see this happening again? And again? Is there a particular outcome that you’re looking for? Is there a number of attendees, I’m

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  53:55

unable to do this every year? As far as attendees, I’d love to be able to reach as many people as would be interested. You know, I mean, if if I want five people in every talk, and those five, five people really get something out of it. That’s good enough for me, if I can get them filled up so that we’re capping out at 500 people, that will also make me very happy. I mean, this, this is a first year I figured it out two months before it starts sort of thing. So whatever I do this year is a win already, because it’ll happen. From there on in I just imagined it growing and becoming more fascinating. Maybe next year. We’ll do one day, maybe next year, we’ll do an entire weekend. I mean, I don’t know.

 

Mallory Gordon  54:45

I love that. I mean you could have taken advantage and capitalized and required a fee to access this but I love that you’re paying it forward, putting those resources out there, letting the conversations be had and let people tell their stories and that’s a beautiful thing.

 

Mickey Gordon  55:00

a free resource. Yes.

 

Mallory Gordon  55:01

Yeah. So if any of our lists, yeah, if any one of our listeners want to sign up and register for any of the all day webinars I’ve already signed up for, I think three. It’s live dot International, kinky Women’s Day. And that’s women’s plural.com. And we’ll put that in our show notes and on Twitter.

 

Mickey Gordon  55:20

I it’s already on. Yeah. You rock.

 

Mallory Gordon  55:23

So before I move on, is there anything you wanted to add about the event on March 8, it’s gonna be super awesome. It’s gonna be fucking awesome. So let’s talk about your books, you referenced those. So I feel like there’s a huge tie in with you, again, providing these resources on different subject matter. You know, even with dating kinky, right, the website. So you were telling me about this release of books. And I think you have like the next 18 to 24 months planned out, with each one being released on specific subject matter and framing that and some of it being crowdsource. Can we talk about that a

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  55:56

little bit? So yeah, I for 2020, I decided that I was going to write a new book for every month.

 

Mallory Gordon  56:04

Because you’re just so bored. And I have nothing else to do right between the site and this event.

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  56:08

Sure. Why not? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that’s, I mean, that’s totally that’s me all the way. Well, I mean, I, I just had so many ideas. And I was like, well, it’s gonna take me 400 years, if I get writing. So it’s also it’s part of a master plan. So I’m writing these books, and I’ve been writing books. And you know, throughout my career on various topics I wrote on vanilla topic for a long time as well. The site is actually free, again, so you can be on there and you can date you can send messages, and you can post pictures and, you know, watch read writings and start discussions and upload audio, all of those things you can do even if you’re a free member, the plus membership just gets you you know, a little bit more features. But it also gets you the library, and the library is a new book every month, an online class and then these webinars on demand, so if you can’t make it live, you can still go back and get the webinars on demand. And you can get them where we translate them into mp3 format. So you can listen to them like a podcast if you don’t want to watch the video. So all of this sort of becomes for you know, one monthly fee, it becomes value and education. So like the January was the big book of Acts. And like

 

Mallory Gordon  57:47

as my big ass

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  57:48

Yes. Okay. And the classes learn to love Angel which is eight lessons plus three bonus lessons all about you know really activating and taking advantage of all the potential pleasure in flux

 

Mickey Gordon  58:05

we have a whole section on casual toys calm Yes. Like stuff is so awesome. It literally is called but stuff I love that stuff is a great word right? Like it’s just an awesome word. It is He covers everything. Do you think you can kind of be tongue in cheek like that with some of your books in in be a little bit funny. I call it spearfishing for poop shark. Oh my god.

 

58:30

I love it.

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  58:31

And spearfishing is all about is all about being educational and like irreverence a bit. I mean, I take I take blood cells seriously and I think being sexy with blood stuff seriously. But you don’t have to be curious in order to take it seriously. You can talk about the change the grundle the bit skin and you you can talk about you know, the fleshy fun the fleshy fun words I use that one too. That is my favorite from Cards Against Humanity. That’s great, but you know, you can do I even I even use let it go. Me reference in my book, also this whatever you do, don’t let it go if I’m back there. Okay. So, so yeah, I mean, it’s all about being accessible. And when you’re super stuffy about these things, it’s not as accessible, you know, a little bit of humor relaxes people. And, you know, they they’re able to learn better, I believe. You know, so like this month is like so what is kinky anyway, and so, our class that starts tomorrow and that is a year’s worth of weekly installments of kingster is talking about their favorite kinks, so Like spanking and latex, and, you know, so it’s nice to kingster. That’s the that’s the class for this one, and then next six months FLR, femme DOM, whatever. We’ve got to find your feminine leadership style class. And all of these can be accessed on dating kinky, calm.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:00:19

Excellent. Okay, so let’s do this. Let’s let all of our listeners know where the easiest way to find the content you’re creating is because it sounds like you’re a constant resource of information. So I’d love people to be able to find you before we wrap this thing up, because we have gone our full time here on casual swinger. But honestly, you’ve been so much fun to talk to. And I think that like this, yeah, it goes so fast and has everything to do with the great resource that you are, and what you created for this community. So take this time to let everybody know where to find you. And the resources you create

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  1:00:52

dating tv.com. It’s the easiest, that you can access all of my social media accounts. From there, you can find my blog, you can see the book, you could join the plus membership if you want to. Which, if you joined before version three pops out, which will be sometime in March, I don’t know when it is, but before version three pops up, be it all uppercase underscore member with a capital M. So capital V, capital a capital P underscore, capital m, e, m b e r, will actually get you a 75% discount of the $20 a month for that membership. There’ll be $5 a month forever. And my CFO said I can do this.

 

Mallory Gordon  1:01:44

Like I did get expressed permission

 

Mickey Gordon  1:01:48

Yeah, see, even the DOM has a master

 

Nookie Dating Kinky  1:01:52

to me that if he was going to be you know, doing all this, I couldn’t give everything away. So you know, he helped me set the price and everything and I asked him I’m like well, you know, could I you know, without you know, maybe a couple just you know to begin with before we go live there you go. I love that. I love that. Yes.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:02:11

Well ladies and gentlemen, this has been an experience with the amazing Nookie from international kinky Women’s Day dating kinky, calm, and author of digital books that you can find on dating kinky, calm. All of this is coming to you from us here at casual swinger. But keep in mind that beautiful Mallory will be on the international kinky Women’s Day webinar that’s going to be on March 8. So after this episode comes out one week after this episode comes out, you’re going to be able to get this content. So by all means, tune in and check out my beautiful wife and speaking of baby, why don’t you tell everybody where they can find us so we can get out of here. All right, we

 

Mallory Gordon  1:02:53

are casual spinner everywhere, folks. That’s Twitter. That’s Facebook, Instagram, YouTube. We’re also on taciti.com as LS SDC Of course double A nation and quiver. You want to shoot us a message it’s podcast at casuals Mayer calm and if you love us, please feel free to write a review on iTunes.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:03:12

And there you have it folks, make sure to check out the show notes where you can find this link that I’m about to give you. That’s live dot international kinky women’s day.com come see the cuckold dress Venus and my beautiful wife Mallory along with a lot of other brilliant content creators who are there to show you some of the coolest stuff in the world. You’ve been listening to casual swinger. Hi, I’m

 

1:04:10

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