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It’s the Season Finale of Season 4 and we’re going all in folks!

Faces out for Season 5 & we’re talking about it with the host of another podcast we love that has absolutely NOTHING to do with the lifestyle, “The Things We All Carry.”  His podcast focuses on the mental health struggles of first responders carrying the traumas from their various rescues over time and how they come to terms with that part of their lives.

We also dig into our experiences at Hedonism II, including our games and our upcoming CASUAL SWINGER WEEK!  That’s right, in April 2023 we’ll be headed to Hedonism II in Negril, Jamaica for a week of fun & laughs with our sexy friends you will NOT want to miss!

Current sponsors include:

Shameless Care

YoungCouplesParties.com

Neva Nude

Oxballs

Uberlube

Casual Toys

Playhouse LV

More to come!

Check out our website for more information including room availability & rates!

Last up, this month’s Whiskey of The Month is:  George Dickel Barrel Select!

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Dickel Barrel Select on Total Wine

The Things We All Carry

Hedonism II

Casual Swinger Week @ Hedonism II

Casual Toys

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Mallory Gordon  00:08

You’re listening to the casual swinger podcast. As your hosts, we need to warn you that the material you’re about to hear may be sexual or explicit in nature. This podcast is intended for an adult audience. Now we don’t expect you to act like adults. What’s the fun in that?

 

Mickey Gordon  00:22

We’re a married couple living in Florida with over 13 years of experience in the lifestyle and we take almost nothing seriously. Casual swingers a variety show meaning we’ll cover everything from music to events, travel, and even the occasional hilarious screw up. Our show was about entertainment. We’re not licensed professionals had anything and our stories, commentary and guidance should not be confused with the opinions of a licensed professional.

 

Mallory Gordon  00:46

Now that you know, let’s take those pants off and get comfy.

 

Mickey Gordon  00:56

Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of casual swinger. My name’s Mickey and Mallory and the guy, right? Yeah, that’s how the heck do you get in here? Random fucking guy.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  01:10

Man.

 

Mickey Gordon  01:13

We need to change the code on the garage. Random people wandering into the studio.

 

Mallory Gordon  01:18

Picking up strange men off the street. Oh,

 

Mickey Gordon  01:21

that’s another first everybody who knows you and knows that happens all the time. Hey, is it me? Or does it feel like the season is lasted for ever?

 

Mallory Gordon  01:30

I feel like this season has spanned two years,

 

Mickey Gordon  01:33

I think actually has been most 2022 has been season four. It’s not supposed to be your sales are supposed to run? Well, I guess I mean, 22 episodes. It’s 42 weeks. 44 weeks. Oh, my math is not good. Your math is okay. Well, it’s good. It depends on whether you want to be right or not.

 

Mallory Gordon  01:52

If you want your math Well, I wouldn’t recommend you becoming a CPA, but it’s decent. Right. If you want to

 

Mickey Gordon  01:56

get audited me to your taxes. I think that’s fair. Anyway, so yeah, obviously this is the season finale. This is season four episode 22. We call this one we are casual swinger? Yes, we is. No See you’re as bad at grammar as I am at math.

 

Mallory Gordon  02:15

I blame it on public education.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  02:17

Oh, definitely not casual swinger. So

 

Mickey Gordon  02:20

You’re something else? Yeah, exactly. We haven’t even entirely

 

Mallory Gordon  02:23

grazed the surface. We

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  02:24

know what I am.

 

Mickey Gordon  02:25

All right. If you guys ever figured out there’s a random guy in the studio today, we’re going to talk about that here in a couple of minutes. We call him stack. He’s also the host of the things we all carry podcast that we’ve talked about a little bit on Twitter. We’re gonna get into that here in a few minutes when you talk to him, and find out about what he’s got going on. Before we talk about some of the other things we’ve got going on. This is not your normal casual swinger episode. I don’t think we really wrote shit about this. This one’s more about just kind of putting a cap on the season and telling you guys where we’re headed. Any thoughts on that? Miller?

 

Mallory Gordon  02:57

Yeah, I mean, I think we have a lot in the hopper right now. A lot of great things, including, for example, our hito trip. It’s a big lift feels like it’s around the corner, but it’s, I don’t know eight months away seven months away.

 

Mickey Gordon  03:10

I don’t know it’s not enough time for me to actually be in shape. Because that’s for me to have.

 

Mallory Gordon  03:18

Have it. He just one of those places. It doesn’t matter your age, Creed like any of that. Like once you’re there. We’re all equal and it’s fucking phenomenal. I love that place. It’s heaven on earth for me. Okay,

 

Mickey Gordon  03:30

I’m gonna need you to lock me in the attic and not let me into the fridge between now and when we go to eat. No, we’re not just leave me up there to start. I

 

Mallory Gordon  03:36

can’t even I’m not coming back.

 

Mickey Gordon  03:39

Well, some shit has happened. Right? Obviously since the season started and what took forever which I think was probably the longest goddamn season in the history of ever which we’ve talked about before. And we’re worried a little thing that Oh, f thing that was big.

 

Mallory Gordon  03:56

Of a certain content creator now.

 

Mickey Gordon  03:59

Oh, you’re a woman of a certain content creator. Yeah.

 

Mallory Gordon  04:01

We call it Yeah, I’m kind of a certain age. I’m maximizing my meal fitness. I’m making that milk money if you must. She’s

 

Mickey Gordon  04:09

one the download folks. Well,

 

Mallory Gordon  04:11

no, I’m definitely not I wouldn’t call it on the download. I

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  04:15

was just say I don’t think it’s on

 

Mickey Gordon  04:15

the download. No, no. That’s public Hold’em.

 

Mallory Gordon  04:19

Yeah. We were taking out a billboard off of I 75. Point right.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  04:24

See right next to the god billboard. Yeah, that’d be on top of it. But pins and Mallory.

 

Mallory Gordon  04:32

And don’t forget to stop at south of the border.

 

Mickey Gordon  04:35

That’s right. And while you’re there, pick up your Mrs. Milford 95, though, show your appreciation for your next door. No. Anyway, we launched a hito trip which we’re going to talk about a fucking lot in this episode. So if you hate Hedo, you hate us. You hate what we’re doing. Yeah, well, you’re talking about you hate when people talk about trips. Just turn this motherfucker off now because we’re gonna talk about it a good bit.

 

Mallory Gordon  04:58

Wow, that was lovely. negativity, a

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  05:00

lot of hate. told you in the other room to leave the hate behind. It’s not hate.

 

Mickey Gordon  05:04

There’s people that hate when other while I just said, Hey, there’s people that genuinely dislike when podcasters talk about their trips, and we’re not trying to sell the trip per se. I just want people to know what they’re getting into when they come with us. So it’s not it’s not hey, I actually love when we go on trips. We’ve been going to Hedo for a very long time. There’s a lot of people that do desire trips and temptation trips and all these other trips. And for me, I feel like it’s a big deal. So we’re going to talk about that a little bit. You know, two P caps happen this season. Yeah,

 

Mallory Gordon  05:34

this looking back on this year? Yeah, we had two P caps. That’s right. We um, we had a spring and a fall. Now it was both of them. Were absolutely fantastic. Fall

 

Mickey Gordon  05:44

it either. PCAP I was sober. Most of the time. I definitely fell at least once. But that’s just of my nature. That’s how we roll. Capital toys keeps growing like casual toys. And

 

Mallory Gordon  05:53

thank you everyone who continues to support this toy store. It’s it’s definitely, especially Mickey’s like, you know. I don’t wanna say life’s blood, but like you poured your heart and soul in that and customer service is something you definitely were born to do. Like, it’s just second nature to you. And I know people appreciate that. So everyone that continues to support it. Thank you so much.

 

Mickey Gordon  06:16

I’m a little maniacal about it. Crazy.

 

Mallory Gordon  06:18

I hate the fact that you said a little makes me giggle are maniacal about it, but I appreciate your passion.

 

Mickey Gordon  06:24

I’m the you get free shit. You get free shit here you have some stuff that you’re

 

Mallory Gordon  06:29

terrible business owner sometimes, but I love you. I love you for it though. I really, really do. It makes you an even better person. It’s fun, though. Yeah. And looking back, we had a fucking grandchild in this grand spawn. The fact that happened, that child will

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  06:44

never mean to ask what happened. I mean, no. Fucking podcast for that.

 

Mallory Gordon  06:50

They do have an endless supply of condoms. I do know what happened.

 

Mickey Gordon  06:54

That’s something that bugs me. So the grand spawn became a thing. The last thing I said to the casual child that left this house. And you know, Caitlyn. Caitlyn. She works for us in casual toys. And by the way, we didn’t hire her in casual toys until after she had the Grand Spa and like we’ll fuck it. Now. I know that you’re having sex. So here, but you know, the gist of it is the last thing that I said to her when she left Florida to move back to our old stomping grounds and be with the person that created the child with her and we like him. He’s a good kid. We do like him. Actually. He’s actually great. I just don’t want to call him up by name on the show. But what I’ll say is the last thing I said to her was, don’t get pregnant. And it was the first fucking thing

 

Mallory Gordon  07:35

she was inside of 30 days. I’m not laughing. I’m laughing now. Because in hindsight, it’s a little ironic and funny.

 

Mickey Gordon  07:44

But I don’t know about its erotica funny, but let’s be

 

Mallory Gordon  07:47

honest, that fucking that little biped. Our grand spawn runs the fucking roost. She calls us once a pony. She gets to pick your colors.

 

Mickey Gordon  07:56

Like I’m gonna find a pink pony because it’s coming. Yeah, like now that little fuckers cute. And I’m really excited about we started out young, so I’m not too worried about it. And by the way, if you think that we’re old, because we’re talking about our grandkid, go ahead and call us call us old when it happens to you because we started young, very young.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  08:14

So I can I can relate. I can relate a lot. How my four grandchildren.

 

Mallory Gordon  08:22

I mean, so I’m under 40 you are you’re you’re barely in your I mean, you’re in your 40s but

 

Mickey Gordon  08:28

like solidly, so it’s

 

Mallory Gordon  08:31

fairly fucking in your in your 40s

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  08:33

I was 44 Yeah, my first one. Yeah, it’s a little weird, but

 

Mickey Gordon  08:37

like we’re years old. And you were like, how the fuck am I? 44 years old? My grandfather.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  08:41

Yeah, yeah. And now I’m trying to figure out how to get you guys are 14 grandchild or grandparents. Yeah,

 

Mallory Gordon  08:46

it’s welcome here not 40 he is. Hey, well,

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  08:49

you’re close enough.

 

Mallory Gordon  08:50

I’m looking at it. I’m waving at 40 Yeah, yeah, no, we’re fucking on.

 

Mickey Gordon  08:55

I’m with him on this. I’m allowed to say so whatever your the average between us is 40. Yeah,

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  08:59

there you go.

 

Mallory Gordon  09:00

Okay, well, I’m seven out of the room. So fuck you both. Now the average has gone up tremendously,

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  09:04

tremendously. You’re correct.

 

Mickey Gordon  09:06

So the grand spawn happened. We started yelling blah, blah, blah. But there is one more big ass thing that I think is kind of happened here at the end of the season and going into season five, which we’re going to talk about today. It’s faces out.

 

Mallory Gordon  09:19

Yeah. I mean, my face is kind of out there. But like no, I don’t know

 

Mickey Gordon  09:24

that your face is what people are looking at. I just said

 

Mallory Gordon  09:26

ouch. Okay, thanks. So look at them, Denise

 

Mickey Gordon  09:29

are amazing, fairer than a whale’s eye.

 

Mallory Gordon  09:35

I like what you did they were no one else will get it. My son said that in a bra section of a department store once and I’ll never forget as long as I live is hilarious. The comparative at two years old just still blows my mind. I digress. titillating orbs. Yeah. So why are we getting into white faces out? Why now? Why not?

 

Mickey Gordon  09:55

Yeah, we’ll get into it. This is the coming out party for it. So we’ll talk about that a little bit more in a little bit. But yeah, basically out now faces out season five. We’ve done a couple of Twitter posts of faces out and a few people have noticed they’re like, Oh, hey, what did that faces? Yeah, and actually, matter of fact, I actually posted a video of yours the other day from your missus Millford account that I had just kind of tagged you in? Yeah,

 

Mallory Gordon  10:15

the one that tick tock decided

 

Mickey Gordon  10:17

tic tac like fuck her boom, she’s

 

Mallory Gordon  10:19

gone hurt my feelings so hard.

 

Mickey Gordon  10:22

Yeah, she she got sad about I didn’t

 

Mallory Gordon  10:23

even know I could get upset with social media like that.

 

Mickey Gordon  10:25

But my favorite part was people were like, wow, I’ve been wondering what she looked like forever. And she’s just as odd as you said, she was like, No fucking shit. You guys think I’m a liar. She’s a lot hotter than me. I’ll agree with that. Now you’re sitting in the room. She’s a lot hotter than Yeah, it’s not even close. I mean, there’s me and then there’s you on another solar system of hot. It’s, I got it. I understand this. Alright, so what else is there? Let’s talk about casual smoothie for a minute. And we’re going to talk about this a little bit more because stack who’s with us, has actually been with us since the beginning of our new Hedo journey. So I’ve been going to heat Oh, since 2001. Because I’m old. We’ve taught recovered that Fuck you, dude. But we’re going to talk a little bit about kind of this group Hedo journey we’ve all been on, and what has changed and kind of, you know, I think it’s good that he’s here. And he’s not a host on the trip. Like corn fed the corn Feds word. Thank you.

 

Mallory Gordon  11:20

Are you you’re I know you’re? You’re like Iowa corn,

 

Mickey Gordon  11:24

Iowa. Corn. Those guys.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  11:26

sociation. Yeah. And

 

Mickey Gordon  11:28

but yeah, so there. He’s not a host. He has been there with us. He was there with us when we were learning how to host so I think it’s gonna be a fun conversation as we get into this. Oh, yeah,

 

Mallory Gordon  11:36

they were there. Oh, I cannot wait to get into the dialogue about having drinks on your porch. Oh, yeah. And about that. Okay. Oh, man, this

 

Mickey Gordon  11:44

is all gonna be a big full circle, kind of like Mallory cities that are big circles. But what

 

Mallory Gordon  11:51

I keep going, Okay,

 

Mickey Gordon  11:54

so let’s talk a little bit about the hito trip. Just before we dig into this, because I don’t want to talk about sponsors during the actual episode. But these boxes are fucking nuts. Right? The companies that have stepped up to help us and trusting us with their brand is we try to bring you guys something that’s truly lifestyle by lifestyle creators and a little different while we’re at it. Here we’re talking about here.

 

Mallory Gordon  12:14

Oh my gosh, there’s the list is constantly growing. And I’m so grateful this people like shameless care.com And this is a site where you can actually get testing for STIs before you go from the comfort of your own home. And they also do Edie medication shipped to your door with no doctor’s appointments.

 

Mickey Gordon  12:33

Yeah, I think it’s super cool. And they’re actually a kind of a derivative and kind of grew from young couples. parties.com which is the hottest party for young couples in the Chicago area. And they’re coming with us on the trip. Yeah, they are YCP Yeah, so YCP the good number of YCP people but we’re gonna be there a bunch of them have already booked already. So shout out to our YCP peeps that are coming out. Yeah, and

 

Mallory Gordon  12:53

this week, you just talked to the folks over at sport cheats which I could hear and unfortunately was able to join the call but I could hear the conversation from the other room there was laughter and and a bunch of good conversation that were going on and it sounds like the company that has a grand kingster need for the bedroom is going to be contributing to these wonderful boxes as well.

 

Mickey Gordon  13:12

I think they’re going to be a big spy for us but the best part thing I love the most is they’re like us like aren’t just good people yes people I mean they’re people we want to be loved they

 

Mallory Gordon  13:23

make a great product because I can say oh no less than three or four their products easily that I use on a regular basis because like the position you need they make something for like doggy style that like as a strap because underneath your hips to help hold you up because like if we’re different heights and like the my femur length versus your standing length, sometimes doesn’t always work out that little extra like pole and plus have that zero gravity effect. I won’t get into exactly how to get horny now because I can’t do anything about

 

Mickey Gordon  13:48

  1. Yeah, well, sport sheets is just the bomb. I mean, from positioning aids to dildos to strap ons to hogtied kids to blindfolds to cuffs, they got everything under the sun and we love those guys. But you guys have heard us talk a million times about another one of our major sponsors for this particular box. And by the way, this shit goes on forever. But Uber lube best and lube period if you haven’t heard us talk about Uber lube, just try it. Trust us this amazing

 

Mallory Gordon  14:08

please do it. It does actually change the quality of sex and masturbation you have. Oh really does I didn’t think it was possible because I’m a habitual masturbator and a sex Queen personally but it changed a lot about the way I have sex.

 

Mickey Gordon  14:22

I love the Uber levy there’s just no cleanup. It just just soaks in your skin you’re good

 

Mallory Gordon  14:26

when you make the joke about it you would come three times washing it off moisturizer so you don’t have to worry about any of that bullshit and it’s not gonna fuck with your pH Yeah, it’s awesome. Yeah, what about ox balls?

 

Mickey Gordon  14:40

Calm intruments for every guy

 

Mallory Gordon  14:46

I’ll tell you what, that is a fucking sturdy as conquering that they make and ox balls are the breadth of product they have available for that is outstanding.

 

Mickey Gordon  14:55

Well, ox balls and hunky junk are the same company so hunky junk Dan Just to cater to the LGBT market and ox balls kind of it’s a lot of it’s the same stuff and but ox balls and hunkajunk both guys if you like conquering she like caulk slings kind of anything that just kind of outfit your junk that product is the fucking bomb. I love ox balls.

 

Mallory Gordon  15:17

And I’m really excited um, that never knew it is sponsoring the box to those are some of my favorite pasties. They have a full breadth of of different pieces from the standard, like paper type or latex type to like the bedazzled Yeah, and they’re, again, high quality.

 

Mickey Gordon  15:36

They’re awesome and also hair ties and braids and and extensions all kinds of crazy shit like if you guys love theme night apparel and even nude is going to be the bomb for you. And of course what about Playhouse LV? Coolest club in Vegas, we’d love

 

Mallory Gordon  15:51

Oh my gosh, some of our favorite love those guys, they throw out one hell of a party. Yeah. So if you’re out in the Vegas area and want to check out a lifestyle club, highly recommend those guys.

 

Mickey Gordon  16:00

Yeah. mentioned her name. Get a good seat. Yeah, the public bathroom. Yeah.

 

Mallory Gordon  16:04

And who else is sponsored? I mean, we get the obvious, of course, what

 

Mickey Gordon  16:07

about casual toys? Oh, yeah. Casual toys.com is gonna provide anybody that books on casual swinger week with a gift certificate to help you guys buy some shit for your themed nights. However, if you happen to buy Edie meds, or you buy the trip package from shameless care, we’ll double your gift card that we’re gonna give. So

 

Mallory Gordon  16:24

we’re doubling down and being like, responsible. And that’s right, yeah, like you guys are

 

Mickey Gordon  16:29

gonna do the right thing. You guys are gonna work with one of our sponsors, we’re gonna make it easy for you. So there’s a lot more to come for casual swinger week. But if that sounds like a lot, we haven’t told you that half of it.

 

Mallory Gordon  16:37

Oh, man. We’re just trying to keep this short and succinct, and it’s really difficult to do. So stay tuned. And if you have any questions, make sure you shoot us a message at podcast at casual swinging.com. We’re happy to answer those,

 

Mickey Gordon  16:48

please do. And right now we have a few at least of most of the room categories. We sold out of a couple

 

Mallory Gordon  16:53

yeah, there’s there’s going to be two or three room category types that are going to sell a lot quicker than the rest. So if you’re interested in again, message us to have more questions. We also have the booking link on our website. Yeah, so I’m ready to go. Yep. Got to travel with us.

 

Mickey Gordon  17:09

There it is. Well travel with us. Alright, at the top it says casual swinger week at Hedonism two, it’s a big fucking link all by itself. Yeah, big banner. Big, big sign big, big, big. And you know, one of my favorite things about this trip before we let this go and move on, like get a 3% discount if you’re a first responder or veteran, motherfucker. Well, the only group that I know of anyway, that’s actively promoting a discount for first responders and military Thank you wet travel. We appreciate your travels, the one that started that shit, and they don’t even talk about it. They just do it because they’re good people. And we’re like, you know what, we’re gonna let everybody know that we’re doing that shit because we partnered with World exotic travel. So if you book any world exotic travel trip and you’re a veteran or you’re a first responder and you show them they’ll give you 3% off your trip, which is fucking awesome. That’s amazing guys. So last thing before we get out of here we’re going to be at the end of next month in Nashville, Tennessee with we got a thing

 

Mallory Gordon  18:00

even as Vegas. Let’s go Oh,

 

Mickey Gordon  18:02

yeah, let’s go see some bachelorette parties. We didn’t see enough of that shit. And we were there actually saw more

 

Mallory Gordon  18:06

bachelor parties, which God bless me on Broadway. I’m pretty sure I’m in somebody’s Tiktok out there.

 

Mickey Gordon  18:11

100% Actually, remember that little dojiggy dance.

 

Mallory Gordon  18:18

I had a few drinks. I was good. It was anyway. But you know, it goes to show that you should book early if you’re you know, in the we got a thing universe there because there should sells out so quickly. It does.

 

Mickey Gordon  18:29

They sold it out already. But that doesn’t mean that we’re not going to be there for a few days. So if you happen to be in, you know nashvegas And want to give us a shout say Hey, hi, we support these guys that we got to think through the sex toy chat which we love doing by the way are we got to think humans are some of our favorite humans everywhere. They’re a supportive and amazing group if you’re not part of we got to think check them out. At we got a thing.com their community includes tons of tons of supportive people lots of content, lots of information of course there educational seminars that you can do that teach you a little bit more about getting into the lifestyle if you’re new. So just a great top of the funnel type group we love we got it is

 

Mallory Gordon  19:05

and it’s it’s holistic. That’s how I describe it.

 

Mickey Gordon  19:09

The reason why I call them the I call them the royalty of this space, I think that they do it right. They do it better than the rest of us. And if we can do it like them, we’ll do better. Excellent. Amazing. Hey, let’s let’s bounce out of here and come back with our friend stack. We’re going to talk about his pocket. We put

 

Mallory Gordon  19:23

him in a corner for a few minutes. Sorry about that sitting there be like punished. I think you’ll like it maybe a little bit. I used to be in on that end. Yeah, I’m

 

Mickey Gordon  19:31

not on punishments, a different podcast.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  19:33

Yeah, yeah, but I’m not on that end. No. Okay. Well, we’ll

 

Mickey Gordon  19:37

be back in just a bit. We’re going to talk about his podcast. That’s the things we all carry. And also we’re going to talk a little bit about her Hedo trip and what’s coming in season five for casual swinger homecoming. No, you come all the time. Speaking of hey, Mallory, you want to tell us where can you find casual swinger? If you haven’t figured it out in four fucking seasons. Well, thank

 

Mallory Gordon  19:55

you, Bob. You can find us this casual swing or everywhere that’s casual. swinger.com feel free to shoot us an This is a podcast at casual swinging.com We are on social media that is YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and Instagram Believe it or not. We’re also on the dating sites if you want to check us out there that’s Cassidy FLSTC and W nation.

 

Mickey Gordon  20:15

And that’ll get her done. We’ll be back in a hot you’ve been listening

 

Mallory Gordon  20:36

and welcome back to casual swinger.

 

Mickey Gordon  20:38

You got it right. Got it ready to go. I’m so proud of you.

 

Mallory Gordon  20:42

Hey, no, Cookie. No, girl. They’re really mine.

 

Mickey Gordon  20:51

Alright, so you know what? I we started this episode talking about your only fans, which I feel it’s only appropriate now to talk about hose. So let’s talk about all the hose that our guest talks about

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  21:02

and polls on today. I don’t belong in any hose. But nice try.

 

Mickey Gordon  21:05

Oh, no, you don’t pull on those anymore. No, not anymore. Alright, so at one point in your career, you pulled a lot of hose. Yes, I did.

 

Mallory Gordon  21:11

Yes. And you’re not a gigolo. We have to clarify. Yeah,

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  21:15

please clarify. Okay. Yes. It’s a byproduct of the job, I suppose.

 

Mickey Gordon  21:21

Okay, just

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  21:23

hanging out with dudes. All right, hanging out with dudes and sleeping in a room of four dudes or five dudes. Alright, six dudes. So now I really

 

Mallory Gordon  21:29

have to clarify. Yeah, go ahead. Ladies. Hold on your panties. We have a firefighter in the house, bonafide? I know.

 

Mickey Gordon  21:38

Just budget serious real deal. Yeah, so tell me this are all firefighters adonis’s are to some of them look like me.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  21:47

Some of them even look like me. And that’s even worse. So

 

Mallory Gordon  21:53

that’s fucked up. It’s you not? Do not judge my decent men.

 

Mickey Gordon  21:58

Yeah, you actually all of our profiles suggest that firefighters go to the front of

 

Mallory Gordon  22:01

the literally firefighters reverse run. It’s the bottom of profile like you get special consideration.

 

Mickey Gordon  22:08

Because we’re very special people extremely my experience with you.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  22:11

I’d say you’re a very special person. My mom always said so.

 

Mickey Gordon  22:15

Mama said some high quality h2o. So tell us a little bit about your podcast? Because and honestly, I got it. Before he gets going here. Guys, I really want you to know I’m mocking Him because we’re friends. I’m not mocking Him. Because I don’t believe what he does. I think that you know, the first time we had a conversation about you starting this podcast, I was passionate about from the minute you said something about it to the point when you sent me your first

 

Mallory Gordon  22:46

pass. I want to say that was universal. I don’t know how many people you asked anyone this under this roof. It was a universal Fuck yes. That’s an amazing idea. Please, God, if you can do it,

 

Mickey Gordon  22:56

yeah, that shit needs to happen.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  22:58

I think that Mickey, you’ve been a supporter from the beginning. I mean, you jumped on it right away. And you did you You encouraged me to do it. And I and I checked with other people. And I got the same kind of encouragement. So the show was born out of the fact that we see some shit every day and, and I just want people to realize they’re not alone. So the show is called the things we all carry. And it’s based, I based the title loosely off the book by Tim O’Brien called The Things They Carried. And that book is a short story collection from Vietnam. And it just talks about these guys going into war and then carrying whatever weapon they had whatever radio, whatever aid bag, whatever it is, they carried into war they carried with them, but then it focuses on what they carried out of war. It talked about the emotional scars and the physical scars. And so the things they all carry is just that it’s talking about, yeah, we carry things into a call into a fire into a medical call. But we also bring these memories and these these, for lack of a better word scars out of a call. So we do we run I don’t want to bring everybody down because there’s some very serious calls we run in cluding involving kids, and we we come out of a house and it affects us. And so that’s where those are the things we carry coming out. And so I just want to bring that to light and then also share how the people are recovering from some of these traumas and some of these very serious I don’t want to say disorders, but there’s PTS which is post traumatic stress. And it’s a it’s a story of recovery more than the story of the traumas. Well,

 

Mallory Gordon  24:27

I I really love that you’re normalizing a subject that as is taboo, which is, if we have to draw a parallel, it’s kind of what we do too, but you do it on a totally fucking different level, like mental health up until, I don’t know, last 612 months. It really doesn’t catch fire. Like it doesn’t catch fire in social media coverage or is discussed socially. It’s actually not acceptable in most circles to discuss that kind of stuff, but it really fucking should be because you’d be surprised how many people share similar experiences and struggle All, especially the demographic you’re talking about firefighters and first responders, because this shit you guys see, most of the time you’re, you’re interfacing with people on the worst day of their life.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  25:10

Yeah, it sounds cliche to say, but it’s true. And it is the worst day of their life. However, we see the worst day of somebody’s life repeatedly. And I think I shared with you this afternoon that that little statistic that we saw that if you run two stoppages, which is means that you’re doing CPR twice in a month, over a span of a career, that’s 400. And something stoppages or dead people you’re working on, to open in a in a month is unrealistic in a big department. I mean, I know people that are running two in a day, I was gonna say two and a chef, yeah, two hour shift. And so you’ve so 24 hour period, you’ve got three in a tour. So you’re looking at six and a tour, and you add that you extrapolate that out towards a 20 or 30 year career, and you’re seeing a lot of death. And gotta go somewhere.

 

Mallory Gordon  25:59

Yeah, that’s not a lot of discussion around how people deal with that, and still live healthy, productive lives,

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  26:04

when that’s that’s kind of my goal is how do we how do we get through these careers? How do we, how do you mitigate a career and still come out on the other end, healthy mentally, physically and emotionally?

 

Mickey Gordon  26:15

Well, and I think there’s been a lot of conversation over the last couple of years, rightfully so about our veterans coming back from overseas, what they’ve seen what they’ve encountered the loss of their brothers, and sisters, that just these things that happen as part of just doing the job. Now, one of the things that I’ve seen throughout the course of our relationship, because a lot of times you’ll share a story with me, and I’ll use the word hero and you get mad at me, almost, I mean, it’s fucking instant, you get you literally the wall goes up, you get irritated with me when I use that term. And I think I’ve seen the same thing with veterans that I know that get upset and they go, I’m just doing my job. And I think that you do that our law enforcement friends that we know do that our veteran friends that we know do that. But they come back here. And they’re expected to just go back to living their normal lives. And veterans do that when they come back at the end of a tour, you do that at the end of the shift. And you have a wife and kids and friends that expect you to pretend like you didn’t just scrape brains off a fucking sidewalk.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  27:22

It’s one of the things I like to or not like to there’s one of the things I’ve been trying to cover in the show is how do you go home and explain to your family that I need about an hour just to decompress, because you don’t know what happened? Yet we sleep we sleep at work, obviously we work 24 hour shifts, we air quotes, we sleep, we don’t really sleep because even if you get up once you’re that affects you for the rest of the day. And some people are getting up, I don’t know, three, four or five times a night. And once you get home, you’re not ready to deal with kids, you’re not ready to deal with your wife, you’re not ready to deal with whatever the day is going to bring. And so part of the show is is trying to teach people how they can take some time for themselves.

 

Mickey Gordon  28:03

So mental health is something we’ve not talked about enough in this country, it’s it’s definitely getting more attention. And I think attention is part of mental health, by the way for children in particular. But when we talk about mental health when we talk about the things that you guys carry, one of the things I like that you do in your show, and it’s kind of your hook with at the end of each of your episodes, you ask your guests what they carry into a call, what are the things they carry.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  28:30

And it’s not even an intro call. It’s just an everyday carry something you want to carry something you carry with you every day that if you don’t have it with you, you’re going to feel naked. Awesome. What’s yours, my everyday carry? Good one. I actually discussed this on episode today that I recorded in your house. It used to be it normally is not used to be normally as a skulls for Hope bracelet that I wear on my wrist. And skulls rope is a great organization bringing suicide awareness to forefront. Lately, I haven’t been wearing it because I got poison ivy from it. And so what I told my guest today was I do acupuncture when I go through my therapy sessions and I go through there, I just recently started therapy for myself and I do it once a week. And the acupuncture is all in my ears. And so when she’s before she starts with the pins, she puts a little Bean on the back of my ear. So each year has a has a little acupuncture being on the back of it. And that’s my everyday carry right now. So when I get into a moment where I need to just kind of if I’m stressed, I want to just kind of calm down to remind myself to breathe, remind myself to meditate to remind myself to just take a minute, I reach out when I squeeze that Venus right there on my ear. So I either do it on one side or both. And it just reminds me to take a second

 

Mickey Gordon  29:41

Are you on the spectrum because that sounds oddly Ah, we’re all in spectrum.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  29:45

You want to get into another profession of mine. We could talk in another

 

Mallory Gordon  29:48

episode. Yeah, we could talk a

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  29:51

whole nother profession.

 

Mallory Gordon  29:52

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Literally the one before this one for you. Yeah, yes. Yeah.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  29:58

So the firefighting was my safer than working with kids with autism you have right?

 

Mickey Gordon  30:04

Of our friend stack who obviously is doing something that I think matters and I think it matters a fucking lot. It’s like why don’t you tell folks how to find your podcast how to find you and how to find people like you? Because I think it’s important before we move on with the fun part of this episode, I wanted to start with this because I feel like

 

Mallory Gordon  30:24

Yeah, usually we do at the end but I think at the beginning is it doesn’t serve as

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  30:29

the main spot to find me as on Instagram and it’s the things they all carry. And it’s at the things they all carry on Instagram. You can also find it the website is the things they all carry.com Okay, and those are the two main sites for the show. Where did so where did they find your podcasts? Just want to listen to it? Yeah, Apple, Spotify, Amazon, where all the major markets so

 

Mickey Gordon  30:49

anywhere you find capital and YouTube, okay, yep. Awesome. So thank you for that and let’s kind of move on a little bit not that I want to move on from that but you know, when I talked about scraping brains off a sidewalk if you like, we need to talk about fucking and sucking. Yeah.

 

Mallory Gordon  31:02

All right. Hey, yeah, let’s really fuck with everyone’s heads out there and just like fucking one at this home with

 

Mickey Gordon  31:08

  1. We are casual swinger. That’s this episode, right? What’s changing? What’s going on? Where are we at what world we live in. Mallory, do you want to just kind of take this and run with it? Because,

 

Mallory Gordon  31:19

I mean, I think right now our heads are are I mean, aside from putting our faces out there is is on this Hedo trip and making sure that you know we create an environment for everyone that I don’t know that that we experience when we go there because it’s our favorite place on the planet.

 

Mickey Gordon  31:38

It’s definitely part of it. So before we really dig into that one of the ways you know I get questions online and on our social sometimes they see what is a casual swinger? Or how do I become one

 

Mallory Gordon  31:50

is this where I stand up in melodramatically say, I am a casual swinger.

 

Mickey Gordon  31:55

I like the melodramatic angle. It’s like from the 80s, like holding up a boombox and yeah,

 

Mallory Gordon  31:58

oh, totally, I’d say anything in my head. Thank you.

 

Mickey Gordon  32:05

So I think in this episode, you know, there’s nothing wrong with telling people who we are and what it is that makes us who we are. I think there’s nothing wrong with that at all. I think that we have tried over four seasons, to make a podcast that’s a little bit different than all of our peers and the people that we respect and admire. And they do some really, really good things. You know, it’s funny, I talk I talk about podcasts that talk about sex. And I say porn for truckers, but I’m not saying that’s a bad thing. Truckers need porn too. Right? And I give you a great example. There’s a podcast it’s going away that I love. It’s that couple next door. J and K make a great show. They got show

 

Mallory Gordon  32:46

experiences it is and I mean, her voice

 

Mickey Gordon  32:50

sexiest fuck. That girl’s got nipples for days and they’re amazing. And it’s you can’t see him you can talk about him and hear about him on the show right there. Great show her voice though. Her voice right. Yes. And but and then there’s shows out there that talk about how to swing and teach you how to swing like we got to thing who we talked about our respect for them earlier. I feel like we’ve always been something different. We are casual swinger. That’s who we are. And casual swinger was meant to be different from the day we started, it was meant to be a variety show that was never about any one thing. We’re just sitting here talking about firefighters and first responders and their their mental health. On an episode, we’re also talking about a hito trip. Yeah, welcome to our show. This is gonna be our casual swap.

 

Mallory Gordon  33:31

I think you you laid it out a couple of times throughout the seasons and said, you know, we we are Swingers, we’re a second generation swingers. And it’s part of who we are. You know, it’s it’s not a hobby for us. It’s inherent. But we are more than just that, too. We’re we are many things including that. Does that make

 

Mickey Gordon  33:51

100%? You know, we have some T shirts that we did a run of that said keep it casual. And we went down to hito. And we gave away a bunch of them. And there was a woman that came up to us and she handed me the shirt back and said I can’t wear this because I’m not a casual swinger. I’m a hardcore swing.

 

Mallory Gordon  34:13

Girl more power to find

 

Mickey Gordon  34:15

your study SL.

 

Mallory Gordon  34:19

Do I get you?

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  34:20

I don’t know. I think my interpretation of what you say casual Swingers, you swing the way you want to swing.

 

Mickey Gordon  34:25

That’s exactly when it’s not hard. And that’s exactly how we feel about it. It’s do Yeah, right. And don’t let someone else tell you how to do it much less us and our T shirt. Keep it hardcore. That doesn’t. You know, one of the things we have been hosting at Hedonism for a long time. Yeah, going in. Yeah, seven years. And one of the things that I always tell people is if you want to be one of us, the easiest way to do what we do, the easiest way to be one of us is look at the person to your left. You Look at the person to your right. And remember that we all got here because somebody was cooled us. Somebody was good to us. Somebody was nice to us, somebody invited us to be a part of their conversation, to be a part of their good time, and to be a part of their lives. You want to be a casual swinger? Start there.

 

Mallory Gordon  35:19

Yeah, being friendly doesn’t mean you have to fuck him.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  35:21

I can I can vouch for that, because I know that I’m a weird spot when I go to hito because I’m an introvert. And these these two, yeah, well, not just Hedo. But it’s a weird spot for an introvert to be it and these two extroverts sitting in front of me kind of took me in as as one of theirs and so it is true. Look to your left look to your right. There’s somebody brought you in.

 

Mallory Gordon  35:43

I think it’s what you think I’m an extrovert. You are

 

Mickey Gordon  35:46

more than he is?

 

Mallory Gordon  35:48

Yeah, definitely more than you are.

 

Mickey Gordon  35:50

The chair you’re sitting on as an extrovert compared to him sometimes.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  35:53

That’s very fucking true.

 

Mallory Gordon  35:59

I’m sitting here looking at both of you and I’m going I’m definitely somewhere in the middle. Okay, for sure.

 

Mickey Gordon  36:06

If you’re talking about extroverts, I am obviously you’re the

 

Mallory Gordon  36:08

most severe form of it. Oh, you’re flaming you most pure form of every

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  36:13

fucking flame.

 

Mickey Gordon  36:14

I’m like, the Moon is about to collide with the Earth. extrovert. Like it’s like so much you miss it. Yeah, right. That’s, that’s that’s definitely true. But yeah, let’s talk about hito. And our experience here a little bit because we launched casual swinger week. Last two learners for the last episode. And casual swinger week is April 1 through the eighth and 2023. And this is, this is a seismic shift for us, because we’ve talked about doing it for the longest time. And we knew when we did it was going to create waves, it was going to be a thing, because we’ve done it for a long time with friends of ours, because we love them, and we still do. And there’s nothing wrong with that. And I don’t think there is hope there’s not if they feel that way. I hope they know they don’t honestly, but it was time for us to take the people that feel the way we do about the lifestyle and life and, and friends and friendship and sex. Yeah. And do something together.

 

Mallory Gordon  37:12

Well, and that’s not just people that exist, but people who are out there that would enjoy that as well. Yeah, opening the doors and going okay, life’s right. This is what we’re doing. It’s very inclusive. Please join us if you want to.

 

Mickey Gordon  37:30

It’s it’s all walks, all ages, all sizes. There’s an ask for every seat. That doesn’t mean that every person on the trip is going to be your jam or you’ll be theirs.

 

Mallory Gordon  37:40

Yeah, and we’re not promising puppy piles or anything like that. It’s just a very organic experience right

 

Mickey Gordon  37:47

there will be no sponsored orgies on this trip. I’m sorry stack you know, you’re sad shit.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  37:51

Alright, nevermind.

 

Mallory Gordon  37:53

Yeah, it’s not it’s not an official agenda item. That’s how I’ve put it like if it happens and like there’s an orgy party. Fucking a live our best lives. Yeah. However, it’s it’s not a scheduled event.

 

Mickey Gordon  38:05

No, it’s not. But one of the what I’m getting at here on kind of what I’m angling toward is to ask you as our guest. You know, you were there. The first time that someone handed me a microphone and said,

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  38:19

Let’s throw a party. And we threw a party.

 

Mickey Gordon  38:22

We threw a party. It was one hell of a party and it’s still one hell of a party with and without us I think they’ve done a great job but we we did something we started something. What was different about it? What What the fuck did we do that made this thing catch fire in your opinion?

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  38:41

I think it was what you said in in your I don’t want to call it a diatribe. But your monologue there it was. It was the all inclusive part. Yeah, and, and Mallory said it as well. It’s all inclusive. We when we threw a party or when we had a pool party, we had an event. We pulled everybody in from the sidelines it didn’t matter if you were part of a group or not. You became part of a fun I love the mouse. Yeah, right. You didn’t shy away from the stragglers the you know, go back to my own show for a second and that’s a selfish a selfish plug. But I talked about I have the tattoos as sinners welcome. And it just to me, that means everybody’s welcome. I want to take everybody in. I don’t care what the what your life is or what you are about. It doesn’t matter if you’re on the outskirts of society. I want to I want to learn your story. That’s what we did. Yeah. Nobody hears too good for you. Right. And that’s that’s what Hedo is about, and that’s what it should be about. And and some of those groups aren’t about that. But you you you made it about that.

 

Mickey Gordon  39:35

You know, we were sitting on your porch drinking whiskey, trying to think of games. Yeah, we’ll talk about some of those games here in a second fill the notebook somewhere of the book with games in it. Yeah, certain things we thought

 

Mallory Gordon  39:45

  1. Those are some of the best laughs I’ve ever had in my life. Yeah, those are pretty good nights. literally sitting we’re sitting on this backwards that you had a beautiful view of the Shenandoah

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  39:56

Valley depends on what your what time of the year it was. But yeah,

 

Mallory Gordon  39:59

I actually I will argue that okay, because there were times like oh Valley river I’m sorry. Yeah, like fuck like desert incredible

 

Mickey Gordon  40:07

Shindo river from your place in the winter was you wanted to be outside freezing your tits, right was amazing, right. But one of the things we talked about that has stuck with us to this day, we actually did it at podcast Palooza with Kate, all three times that we’ve been a part of her event. And God bless that girl for letting us be a part of her event because we love it. We always say no close circles. And if you remember, we had that conversation. Because one of the things in the lifestyle that people tend to call cliques is a group of people standing together. And they stand so closely together the can’t get in can’t break your way through. So we would go through and break up the circles and go hey, open this shit up, right? Open this shit up. Invite people in you got here, because someone didn’t do what you’re doing right now. Do you remember we talked about

 

Mallory Gordon  40:55

that on? We did? Yeah. And we’re not trying to Grenada anyone’s like, or like,

 

Mickey Gordon  40:59

oh, but anything, you might find your next best friend because your back’s not turned to them. That’s true. And that’s a that was a big deal for us for starting this hito trip that we don’t want to close people off. We don’t want to tell people you can’t do this. Right. I felt like that mattered. I feel like it still does. I feel like it still happens. I still hear that group sucks. They’re Clicky. That means that they didn’t meet anybody and they’re upset and they feel like something’s wrong with them.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  41:26

It’s a matter of acceptance.

 

Mallory Gordon  41:27

It is and that conversation goes two ways, right? Like, did you make an effort to introduce yourself like, and if you there’s somebody you want to be introduced to and you’re not comfortable, then that’s when I’m, I’m more than happy to be wing man. 100% of the time, there’s someone you want to be introduced to I don’t give a fuck if I know them or not. I got you. Yeah, I am totally fine break breaking that up or walking in and giving you the assessed?

 

Mickey Gordon  41:54

You know, we were at an event in New Orleans recently. And we did a session at the beginning, talking about just success in an event. And I asked somebody, I asked the room rather, why don’t you walk into those circles? Why don’t you walk up and say hi, why don’t you do that. And there was a girl in the back on the left. She had dark hair, and I don’t know her name. And if she happens to listen to this podcast, darlin, I’m thinking about you right now. And I told you, I loved you when you said it. And I meant it because it took balls, it took brass balls, it took bigger balls than maybe I’ve ever had in front of a group of people. And I’m a public speaker. She said there are levels to this game. And I’m not on the same level as these people. I can’t walk up and talk to them, because I’m not on their level. And my girl was curvy. And she had long, beautiful brown hair and big beautiful eyes. She had so many things about her that were valuable. But what she saw was that she didn’t belong.

 

Mallory Gordon  42:59

And am I crazy? But didn’t we discuss in that same conversation that she decided to make their minds up for them, and not give them an opportunity to do it? themselves?

 

Mickey Gordon  43:11

Yeah, we talked about that. In their regret episode recently. We talked about that in probably the last 500 episodes because I think that that interaction hit me like a sledgehammer in the stomach. Right. But I think that’s one of the things that we’re trying to fix with casual swing or weak and it doesn’t mean by the way, because I’m not a little dude, right? I mean, anybody that was in that room, I’m not a little guy. I don’t have perfect abs. I don’t have perfect teeth. I don’t have perfect hair. Perfect. Anything, but that doesn’t mean I don’t think I belong.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  43:39

I think there’s a misnomer about hito though nobody has perfect anything. Yeah, so fuck it. Dude,

 

Mickey Gordon  43:44

I gotta tell you something that happened a couple weeks ago. Because this shit is hilarious and no one that listens to this episode. If Mallory wasn’t sitting here wouldn’t believe it.

 

Mallory Gordon  43:52

Oh, God, I I don’t know what’s coming. I’m just gonna throw that out there.

 

Mickey Gordon  43:56

But we were doing a thing recently with some friends. And there was a playmate in the circle that we were hanging out with a legitimate playmate. This is a true story this happened apparently it’s a true story. Oh it fucking is. I’m God strike me dead where I sit atop this is a true story of my life. Oh, how five hardest moments of my life. So we I’m filming right? I’m the cameraman and I’m just kind of doing my thing. And I’m in front of this playmate and her husband kicks me in the arm. And he goes Hey, pull up your shirt and rub your belly. Have a belly

 

Mallory Gordon  44:34

I’m not kidding. We’re okay. Can I give I have to give some more context. Okay, three hot blondes back to back on a stripper floor masturbating at the same time

 

Mickey Gordon  44:43

okay, that’s what the fuck it was three girls back to back on a stripper pole masturbating with dildos that’s what I tried. That’s my lifestyle.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  44:56

Now hurtin

 

Mickey Gordon  44:59

three of the hottest one And I know back to back on Sure. On a strip single stripper pole masturbating Matilda is continue.

 

Mallory Gordon  45:05

Yeah, no, that’s it.

 

Mickey Gordon  45:06

Oh, that’s it. That’s the end of your story back to you over me. No. Okay. I don’t know how to top that. Nothing I say is going to be no, no,

 

Mallory Gordon  45:12

it’s coming. I know it’s coming.

 

Mickey Gordon  45:15

Oh it is I know what’s coming. So I get this kick in the arm and it’s her husband and because he’s standing on like, because I’m on my knees trying to shoot and he’s above me standing on like a countertop or something. And he kicks me an army guys pull up your shirt. And I was like, What? No, she’s a playmate. And she’s more or less hot is screaming fucking fire and balls and brimstone. And no, I matter of fact, I’m gonna put on an extra shirt. I

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  45:41

will pass Yeah, parka.

 

Mickey Gordon  45:44

Right, you have a wall I can put between her and I said she doesn’t see me. And he’s like, No, pull up your shirt. And I’m like, what? And so finally, he was no. And so he actually asked us out for me. He pulls his shirt up and starts rubbing his belly. And he goes, do that. And I was like, Huh? Yeah, your breakfast like you did? Hmm. So I went ahead and I did it. I’m sitting here squatting, holding the camera, pulled up my shirt, held it with my chin, which now I have three because I’m only with action and start rubbing my belly like a Buddha. She looks at me her eyes dilate, and she comes all over the third to

 

Mallory Gordon  46:20

hear her get like clap like reaching that point where she’s going to climax. And I look over and out of the left side of my eye. I see my husband rubbing his belly good. Yeah, baby. Like she’s getting off. And I’m like, I don’t know what life is. This is right now. But I’m so happy. It’s mine. And I’m a part of this.

 

Mickey Gordon  46:43

Who the fuck are you telling I get off looking at my belly while I rub it. I will never seen anything like that my life. I’m going to be first one to tell you that I’ve always had a little bit of self consciousness about the fact that no matter really, I make the joke that I need aids or cancer to have ABS because it just read or what I do, it’s never going to happen. And it that happened. One of the hottest girls I’ve ever laid eyes on lost her shit. Because I was her jam. What I’m telling you guys, is not that everyone is going to find you their jam, but there’s one out there. And if you’re not there, you’ll miss it.

 

Mallory Gordon  47:22

And yeah, and part of it’s just taking the risk, right? Get there,

 

Mickey Gordon  47:26

be there. If you’re not there and you don’t have to be a hardcore swinger. To be there. We don’t play with most of the people we meet. That’s true.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  47:36

I think the thing to keep in mind, I know that each time I go to Hedo, I keep in mind that I’m probably not going to do anything.

 

Mickey Gordon  47:42

We usually don’t. Right. So how many pairs of underwear Have you left in the bathroom?

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  47:46

At Washington? National Airport? Oh, yeah. One a trip. What are the Listen people isn’t I’m not shitting myself? No, I just don’t like

 

Mickey Gordon  47:55

wearing white.

 

Mallory Gordon  47:57

Which is funny because it’s on brand for us by the way. Just the mention of it and the show. Pull your underwear off. leaves off. I live please, please give our audience some clarity on why you take your underwear off in the airport.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  48:09

Because I want to get because my my pants will fall off my shorts will fall off if I don’t have underwear on when I go through security because it’s take my belt off. So once I get through security, I want to get rid of the underwear because I do not like having underwear on.

 

Mallory Gordon  48:21

So do you just buy the paper underwear?

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  48:22

No, no, no, this is legit underwear.

 

Mickey Gordon  48:25

Just do you choose the underwear? Cuz you know you’re gonna leave them in an airport. No, I

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  48:29

don’t actually I don’t but I have to get rid of them before the airplane ride. Okay, yeah. And I don’t know if you

 

Mickey Gordon  48:35

ever thought about taking them off on the airplane and leaving them in the pocket.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  48:38

I probably could do that because that would be funny. I’ll do that next time like somebody reaches for a bar. I’ll do that next time. Take a picture and tag. Me know like a

 

Mickey Gordon  48:53

pair of fruit of the

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  48:54

looms kind of like leaving them in the bathroom for people to wander. wander into go What the fuck happened here?

 

Mallory Gordon  48:59

Oh, the first thing I’m gonna think is something there was an accident. 100% Alright,

 

Mickey Gordon  49:05

because I hold my breath. Our listeners are incredibly inquisitive. And they’re probably deeply deeply deeply interested in really

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  49:12

really worried about where this is fucking government.

 

Mickey Gordon  49:16

Why do you choose tighty whities over everything?

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  49:18

Oh, I do not. And you’ve seen my underwear. You know that? I don’t so nice try.

 

Mallory Gordon  49:24

I love how you looked at him and said he’s seen you in a door

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  49:27

because he’s the one who made the fucking comment. Just saying you both see me in it and out of underwear so it doesn’t fucking matter. Yeah,

 

Mickey Gordon  49:36

we get naked a lot. That’s that’s kind of heaters thing. Right. We’re naked. So down at Hedo. We play a lot of games. And we’ve played a lot of games we’ve drempt up a lot of games. There are a lot of games we left behind there’s a fucking tonight we’re gonna play the notebook.

 

Mallory Gordon  49:50

Yeah, notebooks probably

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  49:52

got some gems that notebook got a lot of gems and it’s

 

Mallory Gordon  49:55

for nothing else for fodder and yeah, yeah. banter.

 

Mickey Gordon  49:58

What is your I’m gonna Just around the room because Mallory, I know you probably have a what’s your favorite one that we played

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  50:04

putting us on the spot? Yeah, fuck yeah.

 

Mickey Gordon  50:08

Well, cuz I’m the guy with the mic. I don’t see anything.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  50:10

I’m gonna defer because we’re gonna go ladies first.

 

Mallory Gordon  50:12

Okay, I’m gonna say blowjob karaoke because there was an epic moment that we actually executed. Where do you remember the dude? Beautiful black man with his I don’t know if it was girlfriend or his wife, but she had short dark hair and she was so fucking sexy. Like, they both just lose, like, kindness. And they were both extroverts. And it turns out this mother, he could fucking sing. Oh, yeah. And the goal was for the girls to fuck them up. So they couldn’t sing the lyrics to the song. And he fucking won up to the entire fucking pool by flipping her upside down. She was sucking his dick while the microphone laid between her ass cheeks. And he sang Freebird

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  50:54

Yeah, he did. And he can he sing it? Well, like nobody’s fun. Yeah,

 

Mallory Gordon  50:58

it wasn’t just good. It was great. It was fantastic. While all of these other things were happening, and I don’t know that I could recreate that moment ever again. Like he

 

Mickey Gordon  51:08

was all CeeLo Green. And yes,

 

Mallory Gordon  51:11

but like, fit and just Yeah. Oh my god, like they were incredibly sexy.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  51:18

I’ve seen a lot of stuff and I have it’s very rare that I’m slack jawed but that moment, I was slack jaw.

 

Mallory Gordon  51:24

Absolutely incredible. And I don’t know who they are. If you are listening right now. Please fucking message us. I will remember you if I get Alzheimer’s.

 

Mickey Gordon  51:34

Like, that was fun. That was so much fun. It was crazy. It was I’m blowjob karaoke was one we’ll play it one year. And it it was the silliest craziest fun game. I loved it and I see why it’s your favorite. It made our hearts so happy to see people singing their hearts out. We didn’t know how to dance someone’s mouth or vice versa because she sang with his dick and

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  51:59

she did Yes.

 

Mickey Gordon  52:03

Senator heart out is really really good. All right,

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  52:06

I’m gonna steal another one. We only done once and I know it’s one of your favorites. The running of the unicorn. Because it was so fucking ridiculous.

 

Mallory Gordon  52:16

It was maybe top three most ridiculous if not lyricist.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  52:22

completely took over the beach and the water for that. Do you?

 

Mickey Gordon  52:26

The pool was empty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. owned the resort for 30 minutes. Yeah, we knew

 

Mallory Gordon  52:30

it was going to be hilarious when it was discussed on land before the trip. Yes. And we couldn’t get full sentences out. No, because we had to take breaths in between the rightest laughter to tell the next person what we were thinking the imagery that it created for us yes. Is always like a group like mind meld and like think tank which I probably shouldn’t say think tank because it makes sense. Yeah,

 

Mickey Gordon  52:58

yeah, it was it was truly truly truly impressive.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  53:02

Yeah, oil up those unicorns and

 

Mallory Gordon  53:04

everybody else like hey, let’s call the ocean

 

Mickey Gordon  53:07

I love the names of the unicorns because what we oh yeah, forgot about the name. Yes, oh, yes, the phallus these two apples are losing their shit. But so here’s what happened. All right. So let me just back this truck up and give you a little bit of focus. So on Hedonism beach side, you have a floating dock, and you have a set of rocks that are basically separated by a battle.

 

Mallory Gordon  53:29

Totally safe with this. Yeah,

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  53:32

they’re in the Hammerhead that lives in the fucking bay there. Hey, that Hammerhead and I are cool. That Hammerhead just attacked an eel that day. No, it was an Eagle Rock. Oh, an eagle. Right.

 

Mickey Gordon  53:42

But one of those days yeah. And I stood out there with him. I watched him it was great. We had a good time. He and I are friends. Mallory was very upset when another creepy single dude out there. That’s right. It was just the two of us by ourselves with the shark with me and I have a four foot Top Hat All right, these two have officially left for you had to be their territory. Sorry, but we broadcast your right now.

 

Mallory Gordon  54:09

These are the things you learn and get to experience when you gotta heat it. It’s so random and so wonderful. It it means I

 

Mickey Gordon  54:15

running the unicorns when we did running in the unicorns the first time one of the things we had so these are these eight foot unicorn floaties. And we had four of them and we named them after people in our group. So we had majestic phallus. We had we had Yankee Jew, which was after our leader at the time. His name was Yankee Jew. It was the fucking horse’s name. I’m not making it up.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  54:40

It’s a story you had to tell it. Yeah.

 

Mickey Gordon  54:42

We had surprised handle.

 

Mallory Gordon  54:43

Yes. It was always in the rear.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  54:46

It was never Washington generals Corporation.

 

Mickey Gordon  54:52

Right. So the point was, I as the emcee with a giant speaker standing on the beach, having to announce this into I your thing over a loudspeaker with a microphone literally

 

Mallory Gordon  55:03

for Seven Mile Beach people from sandals were like What the hell is going on over there?

 

Mickey Gordon  55:09

That’s right, like always fell off the unicorn and surprised animals taking up the rear yard. It was a riot. It was so much fun, because these people greased up like, I mean, literally like they fallen off the Exxon Valdez. I went had to turn back on.

 

Mallory Gordon  55:24

Yeah, so we had to grease up. So me and the other Escalades were charged with greasing up the humans and greasing up the unicorns and like, there was no no Kravis Center. And there was

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  55:35

definitely a few points. There were definitely a few points where we looked at each other like, Oh, that’s too much. Yeah. But it was still

 

Mallory Gordon  55:41

it was still perfect. If some is good, more is better. That’s the thing, like when

 

Mickey Gordon  55:45

we come up with these games for these trips that we do, if it’s too much, it’s perfect. Exactly. That’s when we’re like, oh, yeah, we’re doing that. And I love it. And I think it’s a blast. And I think it was a good time. We loved it. Because I asked the two of you what your favorites were of all the things we did. My personal favorite was scouts.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  56:08

Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. There’s a list there too, that we’ve had. Wow. There was yeah, there was a lot of bands a lot that was was turned away.

 

Mickey Gordon  56:17

Yeah. But scouts were effectively was an opportunity for every person to really kind of encapsulate and enjoy everything that he took off. Yeah. Whether you’re a swinger or not,

 

Mallory Gordon  56:31

and it was great for newbies and veterans of whether you’ve been here once or 10 times. It didn’t matter. Like I love that it was relevant. Everyone. That was a lot of fun. It was

 

Mickey Gordon  56:43

and I tell you what, there’s people who went fucking crazy for it. People get super fucking competitive, very competitive. So competitors before it, they really did to the point where at one point, you know, our friends were considering giving away I think a free trip for the people that won the whole fucking thing. Right? It was, it was a lot. It was immersive. There was a lot but I mean everything from finding the hidden hot tubs to having a three way to you know, taking a facial and you had to bring evidence back.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  57:08

So we saw a lot of pictures.

 

Mickey Gordon  57:13

There was some really, really cool she

 

Mallory Gordon  57:15

had shows going on in the balconies like above us. Beach. Do you remember that

 

Mickey Gordon  57:20

public exhibition? And that was Barrett because

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  57:23

I liked that one. Yeah, cuz it forced forces a bad word, but encouraged encouraged you to get out and see everything that he had to offer. That’s right. And it wasn’t just sex. I mean, yeah, go play tennis with a tennis bro.

 

Mickey Gordon  57:35

That’s it. For the tennis, bro. Find the pickleball courts, you know, find the hidden hot tubs. I mean, there were two levels of scouts, right? You could be a regular old like, I’m a good scout, or you can be I’m a fucking dirty horse scout. Yeah, you know, every scale. It was it was really, really cool. And for me, I feel like that was my at least in terms of the one like when I sat down and started scribbling on your deck. That was my magnum opus. I was like this was this was the

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  58:01

one I’m trying to remember how that even came about. But yeah, man, once I started, we always snowballed like a motherfucker. Yeah, like,

 

Mallory Gordon  58:09

conversations. Like most conversations

 

Mickey Gordon  58:12

till we got cold outside. Yeah. And then you went to bed and yelled at us for talking too loud.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  58:17

Yeah, that’s all day. But yeah, your memory is shot because of your concussion. So whatever.

 

Mallory Gordon  58:21

Yeah, he thinks he always had six. Yeah, half. Yeah.

 

Mickey Gordon  58:25

It’s so to put a pin in this thing. Because we’re coming up on the end of our hour. We still have whiskey of the month ahead of us. So we got to get into that. But, you know, our Hedo trip is is really reflective of who we are. We are casual. So that’s the plan. We’re not any one thing. We’re all of you. Casual swingers are a reflection of you, whoever you are listening right now, whether you have questions, confidence, misconceptions, or inadequacy concerns. That’s all of us. We’re all casual swinger on some level or another. And that’s what this episode is about. And that’s kind of where we’re going with season five, we’re coming into this thing with eyes wide open, knowing that we’re not going to do everything right. We’re not going to do everything wrong, we’re not going to get it right or wrong or perfect. We’re going to do our best and we’re going to be here for you. We’re going to offer the best we can offer with casual toys. We’re going to offer the best we can offer with a trip to a place that we love to encourage you to have some experiences like the ones we talked about here on the show today because not everybody is necessarily a rabid wild swingers. Some of us are casual.

 

Mallory Gordon  59:32

You know, though, if you are by all means.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  59:35

Yeah, you can still be casual about it and

 

Mickey Gordon  59:38

you can still be can be at home on the download. You know, unlike Mallory,

 

Mallory Gordon  59:42

what does that supposed to mean?

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  59:44

blasting it out there. You’re good. Oh, yeah,

 

Mallory Gordon  59:46

we did get the billboard. That’s right.

 

Mickey Gordon  59:48

That’s right. It’s right on i 75. Yep. Yeah, no, I think it’s gonna be awesome. I love we got coming to season five. And frankly, I love that we finally got this goddamn trip off the ground. We had Let’s see where do we have left right now? We have, we have 35 rooms left. Right. Okay. 35 rooms and it’s going to be

 

Mallory Gordon  1:00:08

that’s potentially 70 new friends we haven’t met yet. Yeah.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  1:00:11

Unless someone has a double occupancy or room I mean, that’s

 

Mickey Gordon  1:00:17

yeah, I mean Oh, you’re we get some triads because we’ve had triads on our trip we have actually. We can have a lot of things. You could meet two chicks that think you’re the cat’s meow dude is far, far a few between but okay, you could meet two guys, you’re going to Key West. No,

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  1:00:33

I’m not. Yeah, okay. Anyway, you turned around

 

Mallory Gordon  1:00:36

judgment free zone. Possibilities are endless. Do what we’re saying I’ll pay double occupancy.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:00:45

Everybody this is, this has been an absolute blast stack. We respect the living fuck out of what you do with the things we all carry. And I encourage everyone that’s listening to this episode. I know we’ve had some fun after the fact that that was quite on purpose, I assure you, because what he does talk about is heavy. But it’s, it needs to be talked about needs to be heard. If you have a friend that’s a firefighter, a first responder, a veteran,

 

Mallory Gordon  1:01:08

your neighbor, your brother, your sister, your friend, your Yeah, share that, share that

 

Mickey Gordon  1:01:13

podcast with them because it matters. And it’s going to matter to them in ways that you don’t understand because we’re not one of them.

 

Things We All Carry – Stack  1:01:19

Moreover, if if you’re a first responder, you know, when it has a story to tell, please reach out. It can be cathartic for everybody. But it can be cathartic for you to tell that story. And I’m always looking for people to share a story or just have a conversation with me. So they can, like I said they can they can reach me on the website, they can reach me on Instagram, or they can just reach out to my story at the things we all carry.com

 

Mickey Gordon  1:01:44

There you go. And because we’ve run a little long, we’re going to come back in just a hot second with the whiskey of the month. But we’re not going to tell you how to find us at the end of that. So I’m gonna let Mallory do it now, so we don’t have to do it later. And Mallory tell everybody how to find us again, but this time with feeling oh, all the feelings just rub yourself slowly and lightly while you do it.

 

Mallory Gordon  1:02:04

There we go. Alright, so we are casual swinger everywhere. You can find us at casual swinger.com Feel free to shoot us a message at podcasts at casual sweater.com We’re also on social media that’s Instagram, Facebook, YouTube and Twitter and you can find us on the dating sites W nation STC SLS and cassidy.com.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:02:22

That’ll do it. We’ll be back in just a second with August risky the month you’ve been listening to casual,

 

Mallory Gordon  1:02:29

joke’s on you. I drank it all.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:02:47

Alright, folks, welcome back to casual swinger. This is still Mickey.

 

Mallory Gordon  1:02:52

And I’m Mallory. Hi. Yeah. And

 

Mickey Gordon  1:02:53

this is actually a couple of days after we recorded the segment you just

 

Mallory Gordon  1:02:57

had to dry out a we drink all of the whiskey while our friend was in town.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:03:01

Yeah, it was it was getting unruly how much whiskey I think we imbibed while he was here. Yeah, I

 

Mallory Gordon  1:03:07

was to celebrate whiskey the month I think,

 

Mickey Gordon  1:03:09

oh, not such a bad thing. Now and you know what, we got some really cool news that actually since we recorded the episode that we can actually include in the episode. Oh, yeah, that’s right, which is we’re going to Bourbon and beyond. I know. I’m so excited. They reached out. And it was an opportunity for me to speak at the event which is really, really cool. I’m fucking honored to be perfectly honest.

 

Mallory Gordon  1:03:31

Yeah, but this is for your knowledge. I’m not for this. So like, what but it

 

Mickey Gordon  1:03:34

was because of my whiskey background. Yeah, I was asked to do it by the company. So friggin cool. Yeah, it was really, really neat. So I’m pretty jacked. I get to talk in front of 62 distillers

 

Mallory Gordon  1:03:44

and I just get to hang out because I live a charmed life. No, it’s fucking amazing. Like, even if I wasn’t, didn’t have the ability to go like I’m excited for you. I know how passionate you worry about the subject. And it’s just, that’s got to be like a bucket list thing you didn’t know it was a bucket list thing?

 

Mickey Gordon  1:03:58

Well, I’ve never been to Bardstown. So, these are this is like going to church, right? This is our home. So I’m really excited. And rial we’re flying into Louisville, which I gotta buy our tickets after this is over. Yeah, we probably should do that. We have to get there somehow. Yeah, but this event is so popular that we’re probably going to end up having to stay in Louisville because it’s Bardstown is not that big. They think the hotels are pretty much packed. So yeah, I can imagine that. And I’m excited. Whatever. It’s still gonna be awesome. Really excited. Really excited to go out there and do that. So that’s fun. But hey, in the meantime,

 

Mallory Gordon  1:04:28

let’s get to the point here, man.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:04:29

We’re here for whiskey of the month. So hey, sorry, what time is it?

 

Mallory Gordon  1:04:34

Candy is dandy. Bow whiskey makes you frisky. All right. So this whiskey of the month for August 2022 is GA tickle barrel select a good one that is an decal is just fun to say you love the decal the decal. Oh, George tickles another story brand of America Huskies have a very cool complicated past and present but still presents an exceptional value to whisky enthusiast nationwide with their juice being both affordable and widely available because the number that’s that’s the ticket, right? It has to be under $50. And available in at least 40. State. Yep. Which I think we struggled with a little bit with Mira screen however, it

 

Mickey Gordon  1:05:17

was able anywhere. Yeah, no, I

 

Mallory Gordon  1:05:18

think it was such a cool story, though. So we went off brand just just because that I digress. So the story of this whiskey of Georgia decal brand is made most interesting by the fact that unlike most of the other stories, we’ve told, Georgia decal didn’t get famous for making whiskey. He was famous for selling that. Yeah, that’s a crazy guy.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:05:36

Yeah. I mean, it’s he and we’re gonna get into his head, but he literally owned a store, selling another brand of whiskey. And that’s how he got famous. And his name was kind of attached to the brand, you know, after his death, really, but we’ll talk about that in a minute. George decal was actually born in Germany in 1818. So he immigrated to the United States in a fairly early on in his life in 1844. And he started his own small business and started selling spirits in 1861. Well, after the conclusion of the Civil War, he grew his business into exclusively offering liquor. And by that, I mean he bought it from local regional distillers and started distributing it in jugs, barrels and bottles. He took on several partners in his resale business over the years, including a couple of family members. And a lot of them have some very German names. I’m not gonna mess with them, right.

 

Mallory Gordon  1:06:27

So he created like a two tiered distribution model. He did. Wow, he was distributing

 

Mickey Gordon  1:06:30

whiskey when in Kentucky. So anyway, he formed a partnership with a group known as cascade whiskey. Now cascade whiskey was known for its tagline mellow was moonlight. And that was for their tendency to cool the mash at night, which is actually something that my grandfather and great grandfather used to do as well. They said that the mash cooled more evenly in the evening. So it’s kind of a thing that I think survived, you know, long after that. But anyway, Declan his partner soon became the sole distribution network for cascade until his death in 1894. When his shares in the business were willed to his wife Augusta, when she died in 1916, she will deter her brother, Dr. Schwab, who was already a longtime partner of her husband’s. Now he fought vehemently against the rising calls for prohibition in Tennessee spending 1000s of his own dollars, which, in today’s dollars, that’s hundreds of 1000s of dollars, but he spent it lobbying against legislation that would curtail the sale of spirits ultimately nationwide. Tennessee’s passing of prohibition in 1910 forced them to relocate cascade distillery to the Stittsville distillery in Louisville, Kentucky, until Kentucky passed their own prohibition in 1917. Once Nash nationwide prohibition set in in 1920, the brand was no more, at least for now.

 

Mallory Gordon  1:07:47

Wow. So in 1937, four years after the repeal of prohibition, Schwab’s heirs sold the brand to shenley distilling company, which had to track down to former distillers from cascade to get the recipes and nobody actually ever wrote it down.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:08:01

This should happen all the time back then, by the way,

 

Mallory Gordon  1:08:04

in the coming 40s and 50s shenley produced their own whiskey naming it George atypicals cascade, Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey that’s such a mouthful, isn’t it? Right.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:08:14

The decal was a mouthful.

 

Mallory Gordon  1:08:16

So what you did there, I like it, I like it. Later in 1956 shenley tried to buy Jack Daniels but was rebuffed. So his natural reaction was to get busy and compete against Jack Daniels by returning Tennessee in 1950 and reestablishing the cascade holla distillery in coffee County, Tennessee. Like many other whiskies, hailing from the region, this whiskey uses a gold nearest Lincoln County process for distilling spirits. Owing its sweet palette to Maple charcoal, it’s poured over so there we go. We’re tying it in

 

Mickey Gordon  1:08:46

a neat it kind of ties into last month’s whiskey the month that Lincoln County process is used by a lot of different ways. Yeah,

 

Mallory Gordon  1:08:52

they as it turns out, I didn’t know that no way that that’s something I genuinely learned.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:08:58

You know, this is kind of a fun way for us to learn more about the thing we’re passionate about too. But you know, today to this day, George Dickel barrel select is still made in cascade hollow.

 

Mallory Gordon  1:09:08

I didn’t know that either. Yeah. So

 

Mickey Gordon  1:09:10

even though they’re owned by Biagio you know, that’s the which is pretty much the largest. You know, I

 

Mallory Gordon  1:09:15

was gonna say Diageo is the big day.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:09:17

Yeah, there it right there the apple of of liquor. But anyway, in 1964 the first bottles of George Dickel Tennessee whiskey rolled out of the distillery. You can see that some time, right, because in 1956, shenley tried to buy Jack Daniels, and it wasn’t until 1964 He had his own whiskey ready to go. That’s because whiskey takes time to age. So once you make a decision to get into whiskey, that’s a decision you make about 10 years in the future of your life, which is exactly what happened to the guys with George decal. Now that whiskey rolled out of the distillery him choosing to use Dinkles name primarily because cascades reputation was for being an inexpensive whiskey.

 

Mallory Gordon  1:09:53

Okay, so today the brain and distillery are owned and by multinational mega corporation theology like you mentioned, but the roots confusingly interesting. History remain with George fickle being a legend in Tennessee whiskey despite never actually making any.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:10:09

I think that’s kind of neat, right? It’s, I mean, when you go to liquor store, there’s probably five different expressions of decal up there, kind of like old forester, kind of like old elk and a few others that just have a lot of different expressions. And you don’t realize where these names of these brands come from brands that we’ve talked about, like Elijah Craig, Jack, Daniel Victor’s misters, right, some of these brands, and the names that in the stories behind them are as old as America, if not older. Yeah. So it really is kind of neat. So George decal, barrel select, the whiskey is 43% alcohol

 

Mallory Gordon  1:10:42

by volume, so not hot, not terribly hot at all, not terribly

 

Mickey Gordon  1:10:45

hot, which means it’s a very drinkable whiskey. It’s aged 10 to 12 years. So the neat part about the barrel select and this is a cool thing that’s exclusive this bottle, they select 10 barrels, and that’s what all the bottles come from those 10 Barrels so that Ron comes from 10 exclusively selected barrels that were selected to blend together and they are somewhere between 10 and 12 years. So the age statements a little fuzzy. But at the same

 

Mallory Gordon  1:11:12

nicely aged whiskey when you see a lot of these young ones on the shelf that are you know, six, seven years old.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:11:17

Well that’s just it when you look at the price point for this whiskey it’s a 10 to 12 year whiskey. That’s not everyone it’s not sourced. This is actually their whiskey. That’s a great it’s a great deal of 4799 Yeah, it is. I mean it’s a screaming deal whiskey and it actually tastes good. There’s the whiskey guys that I know because a lot of times when we pick a whiskey of the month of whiskey guys and Oh give me a hard time about it.

 

Mallory Gordon  1:11:38

Yeah, and I think it’s it’s strange not strange but little operand for you because this the mash and of itself. 84% Corn 8% Right. 8% malted barley new usually like a higher right blend.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:11:49

I do. I like it a little spicier. This is going to be a little more oak forward, right? It’s going to be a little more of a traditional bourbon. So the I when I when I talk about I’m talking about what does it look like in your glass, it’s gonna dark caramel color with a hint of yellow.

 

Mallory Gordon  1:12:03

Yeah, and on the nose. The descriptions run you know around. It’s a very rounded sweet when it starts off, maybe you get some caramel, vanilla toffee, and corn, corns, a very nice like leveling flavor and it’s mellow and soft enough to the corn husks and this glass and it’s of like sweet Taffy cherries, butterscotch, definitely oak and maybe just a hint of citrus in there. In the back. It’s got a bit of an astringency that that makes it a little sharp. It kind of pops from time to time, but not a consistent factor.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:12:37

Yes. Where you’ll get that astringency and what we mean by astringency is it smells like alcohol. Yeah. Right. And so you’re gonna get that is if you swirl it Glencairn and you swish it, that’s when it’ll hit you. Yeah, right. And that’s kind of kind of how you pull that kind of nose out of it. As far as taste goes. It definitely is caramel forward, but the corn comes in close behind it through those waves of caramel and corner notes of vanilla and oak and clove and even a little rye despite it being a fairly low rye content. There’s a little bit of a spice milling about in the background. It’d be a number of things. Maybe fennel, it’s hard to say actually, when you get all these different flavors, but playing you know, playing a little bit of a hint of men actually. So bringing the whole thing together as a char. That tastes a little bit like toasted marshmallows.

 

Mallory Gordon  1:13:24

I want to be a marshmallow. I’ve been watching way too much tick tock really. And the field of description soft and creamy. That has a refined aspect to it meaning it’s smooth. It’s an easy drinker. It’s an easy drinker. It’s

 

Mickey Gordon  1:13:39

a 10 year it’s gonna be so the finish. Not surprisingly, because it’s caramel forward tastes a lot like caramel vanilla and a little bit of cinnamon which feed back to that corn and that oak as you exhale through your mouth. after ingesting this fine George Dickel barrel select whiskey of the month for casual swinger August 2022. Yeah,

 

Mallory Gordon  1:13:58

and that’s a fucking wrap dude. For the longest season of our lives.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:14:04

This season that never ends. Yeah,

 

Mallory Gordon  1:14:06

is concluded and we come back. We’re out and proud and putting our faces out there and yeah,

 

Mickey Gordon  1:14:12

for this as our faces, man, it’s legit. Hi, I should just use your boobs. that’s all anybody wants to

 

Mallory Gordon  1:14:19

know. They can see that anyways, I always should never forget to share my boobs. That’s awesome. We’re gonna take a little time off before we come back. Whoo. Do you think we’ll be recording before after our Hedo trip in October?

 

Mickey Gordon  1:14:30

I think we got to get at least the first episode. Now because we have Casey Donna Telo joining us through to get that out of the way.

 

Mallory Gordon  1:14:38

She’s amazing. I’m super excited to have her she’s got

 

Mickey Gordon  1:14:40

so much going on. She’s gonna have a lot to talk about. She joins us for episode one of season five aces out and all that good shit.

 

Mallory Gordon  1:14:46

Yeah. All right.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:14:47

You want to tell everybody bye bye. We’ll see you guys in season five.

 

Mallory Gordon  1:14:50

Yeah, ass down face up. Right right. I’m looking at you Derek. All right, we are casual swinger everywhere. Feel free to reach out to as a podcast casual swinging.com Check At our website for details on all our podcasts and other information, there’s a great amount of resources on our website if you haven’t checked it out petrol swinging.com. We’re on social media as casual swinger. That is Twitter, YouTube, Facebook and Instagram. And you can find us on the dating sites which are SLS SDC W. Nation and Cassidy.

 

Mickey Gordon  1:15:19

That’ll do it, folks. That’s a wrap on season four. Hope you had fun. We’ll see you here in a few weeks we kick off the season five, you’ve been listening to casuals. Love you bye